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According to this their most recent innovation was in 2023 with a "virtual community where people can co-create and interact with one another via digital platfo

by patwolf 11mo ago

According to this their most recent innovation was in 2023 with a "virtual community where people can co-create and interact with one another via digital platforms like NFTs and the metaverse."

harvey9 11mo ago
Then they stopped snorting coke and did a sensible walk-back?
- reaperducer 11mo ago
  Considering the heyday of Casio watches was in the 80's, maybe they need more coke.
nextos 11mo ago
It's disappointing. It reinforces the cliché that most hardware companies don't understand software. The GPR-B1000 was promising, as it signaled Casio might be heading towards making watches with advanced features like GPS, yet a bit different from regular smartwatches and close to their traditional models. This model was tied to a phone app, but I thought this was OK for their first iteration. Fast forward to 2023, their expensive DW-H5600 was very disappointing. They included a Polar heart rate monitor, which are known for their reliability. Nevertheless, hear rate readouts are extremely noisy to the point of being useless. Also, setting up the watch requires pairing it with a Casio app, which is absurd for a non-smartwatch. I would love to be able to buy a normal watch that offers heart rate monitoring and basic GPS tracking but can be operated fully offline, doesn't need updates, and will not become abandonware in 5 years time. Garmin is nearly there with some models. Some Casio, Withings, Polar, and Suunto models also have interesting features but overall still far from that ideal goal. Besides, in many regulated environments you can't have a watch with hardware radios like Bluetooth. Only Garmin seems to understand this. Suunto had terrific models, but is slowly falling behind and has been sold to a Chinese conglomerate.
- tombert 11mo ago
  I've been pretty happy with my Garmin Instinct Crossover. It looks like a regular watch, and so if Garmin decides to drop support for it, then it still has like a 2 month battery as a regular watch.
  - throwaway173738 11mo ago
    fwiw I bought a two-year old Garmin model on clearance like 5 years ago and they continued to support it all the way up until I bought an Instinct 2 this year. So I think you’ll be happy with the support you get.
  - NoiseBert69 11mo ago
    With Gadgetbridge they can drop as much as support as they want.
    - nextos 11mo ago
      Gadgetbridge has very limited aGPS support, right? Without aGPS updates, any GPS device is going to have terribly long lock times. Ideally, watches should do like Garmin's. Mount as mass storage devices via USB, and let the user download activity data and upload updates or routes.
      - NoiseBert69 11mo ago
        For my Instinct 3 Solar GadgetBridge it - as far as I can see - can deliver AGPS files. Settings -> Location -> AGPS
- tacticalturtle 11mo ago
  They really do not understand software. Or at least human friendly interfaces. I have a GBX-100, which does have basic smart features when connected to a phone. If you get a text or email, it will tell you that you have a notification. You also have the option to read the contents of the message, if you press a single button six(!) times! Fortunately I bought it because I wanted the time and I liked the way it looks.
tombert 11mo ago
I facepalmed when I read that last entry. I had a G-Shock watch for a long time, it was a great watch, I have a lot of sentimentality towards it, but I do not see any reason why anyone would want an NFT for it.
- kridsdale1 11mo ago
  Post pandemic was a wild time for executives. All the video game company CEOs too were on the NFT train. AI mania wiped all that away instantly.
- somat 11mo ago
  I agree it is all a bit stupid, But I am feeling charitable this morning so I will give it a go. If you wanted to create a registry of watch ownership a nft is certainly one way to go about it. and this use makes far more sense than most tokens. running on nothing more than a dream. Really I think it is more that companies need to maintain a corp of engineers, these engineers are needed for key important projects, but a stable company is not in panic "put out the fire" mode all the time. so there is room for more speculative projects. and this is probably one of them.
Findecanor 11mo ago
I think they should have mentioned the ABL-100 from 2024 [0]. It is probably their most interesting recent watch. It has a step tracker, sets time via Bluetooth from a smartphone, and it is in a classic digital Casio style similar to the A168W and A158W. 0: https://www.casio.com/intl/watches/casio/standard/vintage/abl-100/ https://www.casio.com/intl/watches/casio/standard/vintage/ab...

by patwolf 11mo ago

According to this their most recent innovation was in 2023 with a "virtual community where people can co-create and interact with one another via digital platforms like NFTs and the metaverse."

harvey9 11mo ago

Then they stopped snorting coke and did a sensible walk-back?

reaperducer 11mo ago
Considering the heyday of Casio watches was in the 80's, maybe they need more coke.

nextos 11mo ago

It's disappointing. It reinforces the cliché that most hardware companies don't understand software. The GPR-B1000 was promising, as it signaled Casio might be heading towards making watches with advanced features like GPS, yet a bit different from regular smartwatches and close to their traditional models. This model was tied to a phone app, but I thought this was OK for their first iteration. Fast forward to 2023, their expensive DW-H5600 was very disappointing. They included a Polar heart rate monitor, which are known for their reliability. Nevertheless, hear rate readouts are extremely noisy to the point of being useless. Also, setting up the watch requires pairing it with a Casio app, which is absurd for a non-smartwatch. I would love to be able to buy a normal watch that offers heart rate monitoring and basic GPS tracking but can be operated fully offline, doesn't need updates, and will not become abandonware in 5 years time. Garmin is nearly there with some models. Some Casio, Withings, Polar, and Suunto models also have interesting features but overall still far from that ideal goal. Besides, in many regulated environments you can't have a watch with hardware radios like Bluetooth. Only Garmin seems to understand this. Suunto had terrific models, but is slowly falling behind and has been sold to a Chinese conglomerate.

tombert 11mo ago
I've been pretty happy with my Garmin Instinct Crossover. It looks like a regular watch, and so if Garmin decides to drop support for it, then it still has like a 2 month battery as a regular watch.
- throwaway173738 11mo ago
  fwiw I bought a two-year old Garmin model on clearance like 5 years ago and they continued to support it all the way up until I bought an Instinct 2 this year. So I think you’ll be happy with the support you get.
- NoiseBert69 11mo ago
  With Gadgetbridge they can drop as much as support as they want.
  - nextos 11mo ago
    Gadgetbridge has very limited aGPS support, right? Without aGPS updates, any GPS device is going to have terribly long lock times. Ideally, watches should do like Garmin's. Mount as mass storage devices via USB, and let the user download activity data and upload updates or routes.
    - NoiseBert69 11mo ago
      For my Instinct 3 Solar GadgetBridge it - as far as I can see - can deliver AGPS files. Settings -> Location -> AGPS
tacticalturtle 11mo ago
They really do not understand software. Or at least human friendly interfaces. I have a GBX-100, which does have basic smart features when connected to a phone. If you get a text or email, it will tell you that you have a notification. You also have the option to read the contents of the message, if you press a single button six(!) times! Fortunately I bought it because I wanted the time and I liked the way it looks.

tombert 11mo ago

I facepalmed when I read that last entry. I had a G-Shock watch for a long time, it was a great watch, I have a lot of sentimentality towards it, but I do not see any reason why anyone would want an NFT for it.

kridsdale1 11mo ago
Post pandemic was a wild time for executives. All the video game company CEOs too were on the NFT train. AI mania wiped all that away instantly.
somat 11mo ago
I agree it is all a bit stupid, But I am feeling charitable this morning so I will give it a go. If you wanted to create a registry of watch ownership a nft is certainly one way to go about it. and this use makes far more sense than most tokens. running on nothing more than a dream. Really I think it is more that companies need to maintain a corp of engineers, these engineers are needed for key important projects, but a stable company is not in panic "put out the fire" mode all the time. so there is room for more speculative projects. and this is probably one of them.

Findecanor 11mo ago

I think they should have mentioned the ABL-100 from 2024 [0]. It is probably their most interesting recent watch. It has a step tracker, sets time via Bluetooth from a smartphone, and it is in a classic digital Casio style similar to the A168W and A158W. 0: https://www.casio.com/intl/watches/casio/standard/vintage/abl-100/ https://www.casio.com/intl/watches/casio/standard/vintage/ab...