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by canucker2016 11mo ago

from https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/article/not-surprising-heres-what-drove-canadas-lost-measles-free-status-says-one-expert/ https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/article/not-surprising-heres-w... Certain religious and cultural groups, including Mennonite populations — where the first outbreak began on Oct. 27, 2024, after an international traveller from Thailand attended a wedding in New Brunswick and guests then returned to southwestern Ontario — and Amish populations, were disproportionately affected.

canucker2016 11mo ago
A reporter from The Globe and Mail, Nathan Vanderklippe, did a deep dive into the measles outbreak in New Brunswick/Ontario/Alberta/Texas. see https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-measles-outbreak-canada-united-states-tracing-the-start/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-measles-outbre... or non-paywalled version https://web.archive.org/web/20250922034906/https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-measles-outbreak-canada-united-states-tracing-the-start/ https://web.archive.org/web/20250922034906/https://www.thegl... or if you want to watch/listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEU4uTK5abQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEU4uTK5abQ
- Voultapher 11mo ago
  > Measles, a dangerous illness that for decades has rarely infected Canadians, is back – and spreading. [...] Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., left, now the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services, stands with protesters in Olympia, Wash., in 2019, opposing a bill to tighten measles, mumps and rubella vaccine requirements for school-aged children. Reading this, it's a challenge to feel empathy. Everyone deserves some degree of empathy, idiots too. Yet this topic seems so needlessly self inflicted. Maybe it's a more nuanced topic than I'm aware of, is there a strong argument against vaccination?
  - SAI_Peregrinus 11mo ago
    There's a fraudulent argument against vaccination. Unfortunately many people believe the fraudsters.
    - josefritzishere 11mo ago
      RFK... sigh
      - anadem 11mo ago
        And the guy he works for ... sigh bigly
        actionfromafar 11mo ago
        Antichrist?
        rickydroll 11mo ago
        no, antivax /s
        red-iron-pine 11mo ago
        if ever there was someone that met that definition, it would be him presumably that's why peter thiel went on his spiel about the antichrist -- because he's met him, and is trying to get out in front of it
jmyeet 11mo ago
There are different sources of antivax attitudes in different communities. For some, there's a religious or cultural basis. For others, they are simply the victims of a well-funded and concerted misinformation campaign. A good example if the ultra-orthodox Jewish community in Brooklyn for whom a gloosy booklet seems to bear a lot of responsibility [1] and this predates Covid. It's particularly interesting because certain preventable diseases can cause male infertility. This became such a big problem that Israel had to counter this misinformation so ultra-Orthodox communities would get Covid vaccines [2]. None of this came from any form of Judaism. [1]: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/brooklyn-measles-outbreak-how-glossy-booklet-spread-anti-vaccine-messages-n993596 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/brooklyn-measles-outbre... [2]: https://www.npr.org/2021/04/22/988812635/how-israel-persuaded-reluctant-ultra-orthodox-jews-to-get-vaccinated-against-cov https://www.npr.org/2021/04/22/988812635/how-israel-persuade...
- marcosdumay 11mo ago
  > religious or cultural basis .... a well-funded and concerted misinformation campaign There's way less difference between those two things than their different names imply.

canucker2016 11mo ago

A reporter from The Globe and Mail, Nathan Vanderklippe, did a deep dive into the measles outbreak in New Brunswick/Ontario/Alberta/Texas. see https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-measles-outbreak-canada-united-states-tracing-the-start/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-measles-outbre... or non-paywalled version https://web.archive.org/web/20250922034906/https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-measles-outbreak-canada-united-states-tracing-the-start/ https://web.archive.org/web/20250922034906/https://www.thegl... or if you want to watch/listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEU4uTK5abQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEU4uTK5abQ

Voultapher 11mo ago
> Measles, a dangerous illness that for decades has rarely infected Canadians, is back – and spreading. [...] Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., left, now the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services, stands with protesters in Olympia, Wash., in 2019, opposing a bill to tighten measles, mumps and rubella vaccine requirements for school-aged children. Reading this, it's a challenge to feel empathy. Everyone deserves some degree of empathy, idiots too. Yet this topic seems so needlessly self inflicted. Maybe it's a more nuanced topic than I'm aware of, is there a strong argument against vaccination?
- SAI_Peregrinus 11mo ago
  There's a fraudulent argument against vaccination. Unfortunately many people believe the fraudsters.
  - josefritzishere 11mo ago
    RFK... sigh
    - anadem 11mo ago
      And the guy he works for ... sigh bigly
      - actionfromafar 11mo ago
        Antichrist?
        rickydroll 11mo ago
        no, antivax /s
        red-iron-pine 11mo ago
        if ever there was someone that met that definition, it would be him presumably that's why peter thiel went on his spiel about the antichrist -- because he's met him, and is trying to get out in front of it

jmyeet 11mo ago

There are different sources of antivax attitudes in different communities. For some, there's a religious or cultural basis. For others, they are simply the victims of a well-funded and concerted misinformation campaign. A good example if the ultra-orthodox Jewish community in Brooklyn for whom a gloosy booklet seems to bear a lot of responsibility [1] and this predates Covid. It's particularly interesting because certain preventable diseases can cause male infertility. This became such a big problem that Israel had to counter this misinformation so ultra-Orthodox communities would get Covid vaccines [2]. None of this came from any form of Judaism. [1]: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/brooklyn-measles-outbreak-how-glossy-booklet-spread-anti-vaccine-messages-n993596 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/brooklyn-measles-outbre... [2]: https://www.npr.org/2021/04/22/988812635/how-israel-persuaded-reluctant-ultra-orthodox-jews-to-get-vaccinated-against-cov https://www.npr.org/2021/04/22/988812635/how-israel-persuade...

marcosdumay 11mo ago
> religious or cultural basis .... a well-funded and concerted misinformation campaign There's way less difference between those two things than their different names imply.