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"Good for business" is not the highest goal a human can achieve. Not even close. Start with "do the right thing" and progress from there.

groundzeros2015 1y ago
- What do you desire from professionals you hire? - is performative naming of countries that hurt your relationships “the right thing” - is business where we achieve our highest goals as humans?
- reaperducer 1y ago
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  - kps 1y ago
    > What flavor are hydrogen protons? Sour. A high concentration of hydrogen protons (low pH) tastes sour.
1121redblackgo 1y ago
I'd rather we drop the pretense or expectations that corporations have anything but one goal. That will help us direct our energy to where it can actually be productive. If the marketplace demands better corporate stewardship, and people vote with their wallet, and companies decides to change then great, but the corporate ship is only ever getting steered in one direction and it's not for noble reasons.
epolanski 1y ago
I really dislike this narrative. Because if you really want to stick with it, most companies should do business in a handful of countries in the world. I think businesses should mind their own businesses and comply with local laws, end of story. I ain't got no patience for companies quitting country X, but not Y.
- reaperducer 1y ago
  if you really want to stick with it, most companies should do business in a handful of countries in the world. Why is that a bad thing? Difficulty: Don't use the trope "maximize shareholder value."
  - groundzeros2015 1y ago
    Because what you consider moral issues are actually just issue prominent in media. And yes, I want my business to be prudent in earning money. Doing harm to people is not effective or prudent. Getting in political name callings is also not prudent.
    - reaperducer 1y ago
      How's that Gulf of America map working out in Mexico?
  - epolanski 1y ago
    The world changes very fast. This leads to uncertainty. Can you imagine McDonald's starting to open/close non-stop in countries depending on their status in some imaginary ethical ranking? And who gets to decide that imaginary ranking anyway?

groundzeros2015 1y ago

- What do you desire from professionals you hire? - is performative naming of countries that hurt your relationships “the right thing” - is business where we achieve our highest goals as humans?

reaperducer 1y ago
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- kps 1y ago
  > What flavor are hydrogen protons? Sour. A high concentration of hydrogen protons (low pH) tastes sour.

1121redblackgo 1y ago

I'd rather we drop the pretense or expectations that corporations have anything but one goal. That will help us direct our energy to where it can actually be productive. If the marketplace demands better corporate stewardship, and people vote with their wallet, and companies decides to change then great, but the corporate ship is only ever getting steered in one direction and it's not for noble reasons.

epolanski 1y ago

I really dislike this narrative. Because if you really want to stick with it, most companies should do business in a handful of countries in the world. I think businesses should mind their own businesses and comply with local laws, end of story. I ain't got no patience for companies quitting country X, but not Y.

reaperducer 1y ago
if you really want to stick with it, most companies should do business in a handful of countries in the world. Why is that a bad thing? Difficulty: Don't use the trope "maximize shareholder value."
- groundzeros2015 1y ago
  Because what you consider moral issues are actually just issue prominent in media. And yes, I want my business to be prudent in earning money. Doing harm to people is not effective or prudent. Getting in political name callings is also not prudent.
  - reaperducer 1y ago
    How's that Gulf of America map working out in Mexico?
- epolanski 1y ago
  The world changes very fast. This leads to uncertainty. Can you imagine McDonald's starting to open/close non-stop in countries depending on their status in some imaginary ethical ranking? And who gets to decide that imaginary ranking anyway?