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It is. But you won't get such an answer from the "important" people because they are busy imposing useless laws every other day. The public is unaware and unwi

by mrcsharp 11mo ago

It is. But you won't get such an answer from the "important" people because they are busy imposing useless laws every other day. The public is unaware and unwilling to engage in such discussions because there isn't much pain being felt yet from the current structure of the economy.

givemeethekeys 11mo ago
If the people who have the most to lose don't think that something is in the national interest, then is it really?
- xboxnolifes 11mo ago
  They're also the people with the most ability to jump ship should something happen.
  - coldtea 11mo ago
    aka zero skin in the game, and, worse, a lot to earn by doing favors and pushing for quick profits for their friends in the corporate and finance worlds
    - potato3732842 11mo ago
      It's the old world old money version of cashing out your tech bucks and retiring to Colorado.
- mrcsharp 11mo ago
  Disagreements about what is of national interest is always going to be a thing. In my opinion, having a country that doesn't have the means to build, at the very least, what is needed to keep its economy going is not in a good spot at all.
- faichai 11mo ago
  "think" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. Are the people really thinking? I don't think they are.
  - coldtea 11mo ago
    Those people are thinking just fine. With their wallets. Why would they prioritize national interests? Because they were elected to do so? After all they know they were actually elected because people were only given a couple of establishment approved choices, and in their naivety they happened to pick their side this time (after all they alternate between the two choices all the time). They also know they'll be fine and have their salaries, extras, and nice corporate post-politic sinecures whetever their performance. Just see Blair.
    - throwaway290 11mo ago
      > Why would they prioritize national interests? Because they were elected to do so? How about because they are human people like you and me. You don't think you are a bad guy who always does things only in your own interest right? So why do you think they are like that? How about if they really screw people over they know there will be mass protests etc.
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      - coldtea 11mo ago
        >How about because they are human people like you and me Oh, sweet summer child. >You don't think you are a bad guy who always does things only in your own interest right? So why do you think they are like that? Because I wasn't promoted and passed all the exams of a system designed to promote sociopaths, party interests, and corporate/financial/M.I.C. interests, nor did I have the sociopathic self-selection to want to get to the highest offices of power.
        foldr 11mo ago
whiplash451 11mo ago
Like people were not feeling the pain in the first half of the XXth century when we decided to own our nuclear stack? It's a matter of political courage.

givemeethekeys 11mo ago

If the people who have the most to lose don't think that something is in the national interest, then is it really?

xboxnolifes 11mo ago
They're also the people with the most ability to jump ship should something happen.
- coldtea 11mo ago
  aka zero skin in the game, and, worse, a lot to earn by doing favors and pushing for quick profits for their friends in the corporate and finance worlds
  - potato3732842 11mo ago
    It's the old world old money version of cashing out your tech bucks and retiring to Colorado.
mrcsharp 11mo ago
Disagreements about what is of national interest is always going to be a thing. In my opinion, having a country that doesn't have the means to build, at the very least, what is needed to keep its economy going is not in a good spot at all.
faichai 11mo ago
"think" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. Are the people really thinking? I don't think they are.
- coldtea 11mo ago
  Those people are thinking just fine. With their wallets. Why would they prioritize national interests? Because they were elected to do so? After all they know they were actually elected because people were only given a couple of establishment approved choices, and in their naivety they happened to pick their side this time (after all they alternate between the two choices all the time). They also know they'll be fine and have their salaries, extras, and nice corporate post-politic sinecures whetever their performance. Just see Blair.
  - throwaway290 11mo ago
    > Why would they prioritize national interests? Because they were elected to do so? How about because they are human people like you and me. You don't think you are a bad guy who always does things only in your own interest right? So why do you think they are like that? How about if they really screw people over they know there will be mass protests etc.
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    - coldtea 11mo ago
      >How about because they are human people like you and me Oh, sweet summer child. >You don't think you are a bad guy who always does things only in your own interest right? So why do you think they are like that? Because I wasn't promoted and passed all the exams of a system designed to promote sociopaths, party interests, and corporate/financial/M.I.C. interests, nor did I have the sociopathic self-selection to want to get to the highest offices of power.
      - foldr 11mo ago

whiplash451 11mo ago

Like people were not feeling the pain in the first half of the XXth century when we decided to own our nuclear stack? It's a matter of political courage.