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People make mistakes. Security engineers need to understand what sort of mistakes people are making and mitigate that risk. Brushing it under the rug as silly u
by 8organicbits 11mo ago
People make mistakes. Security engineers need to understand what sort of mistakes people are making and mitigate that risk. Brushing it under the rug as silly users making mistakes doesn't protect anyone.
- monerozcash 11mo agoThe automated services using this for security-related purposes are presumably built by "security engineers", if they're making mistakes like this they're obviously woefully underqualified.
- Uehreka 11mo agoMany people are woefully under qualified, we need to have a working society anyway.
- monerozcash 11mo agoYeah, I'm not sure that baby-proofing everything as proposed here is going to result in a working society. If we expected airplanes or cars to be able to be safely operated by people with zero understanding of how such vehicles work, nobody would be getting anywhere. You eventually reach a level of stupidity and/or incompetence after which trying to alter the product to coddle those users becomes counterproductive.
- wolf550e 11mo agoAlmost nothing is built by security engineers, including security features of security products at security companies.
- arcfour 11mo agoI'm a security engineer, I have built things like this, and I made the original comment. A lot of my job revolves around developing automation for security needs. Also, many of the top 100 domains serve user-generated content (like AWS/S3). Blindly trusting anything from them just because they are big is so woefully misguided it boggles my mind; I seriously doubt that anyone is actually doing what is described in the article.
- huflungdung 11mo ago[dead]
- 8organicbits 11mo agoIdk, I have done security audits for startups and small tech companies. They won't have a security engineer on staff and are "moving fast and breaking things". I've seen things much more misguided than this.
- arcfour 11mo agoI just finished working at a small company like what you are probably describing. It was...horrific. But I try not to think about that anymore!
- wombatpm 11mo agoTrue masters of security realize all software is flawed, and therefore write none.
- vacuity 11mo agoUse none, too.