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they are persons under US law.
by exe34 1y ago
they are persons under US law.
- JadeNB 1y agoBut US law isn't even the law of the world, let alone the definition of reality.
- JohnFen 1y agoOnly in a couple of very specific and narrow ways. They are not considered persons generally under US law. They are legal fictions that have been granted a subset of rights that people have.
- nobodyandproud 1y agoAnd that subset of rights keeps expanding.
- bossyTeacher 1y agoUS law only applies in the US. Plus, the company in question seems to be based in Canada, so outside the FBI jurisdiction
- adventured 1y agoSo was Kim Dot Com. Biden went after him anyway at the behest of big media.
- vel0city 1y agoI mean, its not like it was just Biden. His extradition proceedings took place during three different US presidential administrations. You might as well include Trump and Obama in there as well.
- exe34 1y agothat's just wishful thinking. US law applies world wide as long as Trump is willing to reach out and nab you. ask the Venezuelan fishermen.
- dashundchen 1y agoThat's not even US law, it's straight up murder outside of the law.
- dragonwriter 1y ago> US law only applies in the US. Where US law applies varies by which law it is; there are US laws that apply only outside of the US [0], as well as US laws which have application both inside and outside the US. [0] e.g., the federal torture statute, 18 U.S. Code § 2340A(a), “Whoever outside the United States commits or attempts to commit torture shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both, and if death results to any person from conduct prohibited by this subsection, shall be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life.” https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2340A https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2340A
- msla 1y agoPeople pretend the GDPR applies to everyone, so why not the DMCA?
- exe34 1y agoGDPR applies to you if you come to the EU to peddle your wares. DCMA absolutely does apply to European firms selling their goods and services in the US.
- mrweasel 1y agoIt would solve a lot if that was taken to the extreme. Sorry Amazon, but your working conditions killed five people. Your business licens is going to jail for 40 years, good luck getting contracts with other companies with murder on your records when you get out.
- hamdingers 1y agoIf you're looking to US law to discern who is a person and who is not you are deeply lost.
- exe34 1y agothe argument really wasn't about human persons, it was about legal persons. the distinction was only brought up to derail the conversation.
- modo_mario 1y agoThen one should be able to put them on death row under US law.
- wartywhoa23 1y agoI imagine there's a whole lot of snarky epitaphs which the remnants of the humankind could place on this civilization's gravestone, but citing this exact law might make for the best one.