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Big corporations aren't humans.
by foofoo12 11mo ago
Big corporations aren't humans.
- exe34 11mo agothey are persons under US law.
- JadeNB 11mo agoBut US law isn't even the law of the world, let alone the definition of reality.
- JohnFen 11mo agoOnly in a couple of very specific and narrow ways. They are not considered persons generally under US law. They are legal fictions that have been granted a subset of rights that people have.
- nobodyandproud 11mo agoAnd that subset of rights keeps expanding.
- bossyTeacher 11mo agoUS law only applies in the US. Plus, the company in question seems to be based in Canada, so outside the FBI jurisdiction
- adventured 11mo agoSo was Kim Dot Com. Biden went after him anyway at the behest of big media.
- vel0city 11mo agoI mean, its not like it was just Biden. His extradition proceedings took place during three different US presidential administrations. You might as well include Trump and Obama in there as well.
- exe34 11mo agothat's just wishful thinking. US law applies world wide as long as Trump is willing to reach out and nab you. ask the Venezuelan fishermen.
- dashundchen 11mo agoThat's not even US law, it's straight up murder outside of the law.
- dragonwriter 11mo ago> US law only applies in the US. Where US law applies varies by which law it is; there are US laws that apply only outside of the US [0], as well as US laws which have application both inside and outside the US. [0] e.g., the federal torture statute, 18 U.S. Code § 2340A(a), “Whoever outside the United States commits or attempts to commit torture shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both, and if death results to any person from conduct prohibited by this subsection, shall be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life.” https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2340A https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2340A
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- mrweasel 11mo agoIt would solve a lot if that was taken to the extreme. Sorry Amazon, but your working conditions killed five people. Your business licens is going to jail for 40 years, good luck getting contracts with other companies with murder on your records when you get out.
- hamdingers 11mo agoIf you're looking to US law to discern who is a person and who is not you are deeply lost.
- exe34 11mo agothe argument really wasn't about human persons, it was about legal persons. the distinction was only brought up to derail the conversation.
- modo_mario 11mo agoThen one should be able to put them on death row under US law.
- wartywhoa23 11mo agoI imagine there's a whole lot of snarky epitaphs which the remnants of the humankind could place on this civilization's gravestone, but citing this exact law might make for the best one.
- wang_li 11mo agoCorporations large and small don't do anything. It's always a person. The question you are answering, even if you don't think you are, is whether a few people can get together and act in concert and still retain their rights.