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Wild times. I guess I'm just at a loss for words—what's going on in this country.
by JKCalhoun 1y ago
Wild times. I guess I'm just at a loss for words—what's going on in this country.
- mystraline 1y ago[flagged]
- owlninja 1y ago[flagged]
- anadem 1y ago[flagged]
- GiorgioG 1y agoCongress is still supposed to do its job.
- drooby 1y agoBy impeaching and removing him, yes
- georgemcbay 1y agoHalf of Congress clearly believes its job is to do whatever the gangster says.
- dfxm12 1y agoHouse Republicans have been refusing to show up for work for over a month, while still collecting a paycheck. They expect air traffic controllers, et al. to work for free.
- trelane 1y ago[flagged]
- tekno45 1y agoisnt that the minority leader?
- SilverElfin 1y ago[flagged]
- Trasmatta 1y agoThe Republican party has the power to negotiate with the Democrats at any point and reopen the government. This is a Republican shutdown, through and through.
- trelane 1y ago... and conversely, so do Democrats. Amazingly, Republicans were also blamed when the sides were reversed. If you're determined to blame someone, it is always possible to find a way to phrase things so it's their fault.
- danaris 1y ago> Amazingly, Republicans were also blamed when the sides were reversed. Because again and again, it is Republicans who show they are uninterested in governance, while Democrats demonstrate their commitment to it—even if they are sometimes bad at it.
- CamperBob2 1y agoThe Republicans hold sway over all three branches of government. They can reopen the government anytime they wish. Why do you suppose they're not doing that?
- trelane 1y agoIt requires 60 votes, and the Republicans don't have enough of a majority, even if they were to all vote with the party. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5588295-spending-bill-government-shutdown-vote/ https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5588295-spending-bill-go...
- lotsofpulp 1y agoIs it called a hijacking if the majority of passengers support the hijackers?
- op00to 1y agoThe majority of American citizens do not support the policies of the current administration.
- khazhoux 1y agoYou must be thinking of the ones that didn't vote? Yeah, they don't count. (voting is how you get counted)
- esseph 1y agoEven the ones that did vote. They don't seem to support the tariffs, Venezuela/Columbia expeditions, ICE behavior, etc.
- SilverElfin 1y agoThe current administration won the vote. And in fact the continuing resolutions that would fund the government have majority support in both houses of Congress, by the representatives of American citizens. But it needs 60 votes in Senate not just 50 votes. Right now most Democrat senators (all but 3) are voting against even a clean funding resolution that makes no changes to the pre shutdown status quo.
- runako 1y ago> needs 60 votes This is a gentle fiction. The GOP has the 51 votes to change this rule by lunchtime tomorrow and proceed to govern according to the mandate they claim. They may choose not to do that, as is their prerogative. But they do not "need" 60 votes according to the Constitution, which is free online to read. One can even search for a 60-vote cloture requirement in the document and its amendments, which are in fact the real governing documents that describe how Congress is required to operate.
- WillPostForFood 1y agoThe "gangster" wants the government open, republicans in Congress have all voted ~10 times to reopen. How can you not blame the only people voting to keep it closed?
- prh8 1y agoRepublicans want it open with the conditions, conditions that are unacceptable for the health of society
- cdelsolar 1y agothey're taking away people's healthcare
- mayneack 1y agoThe republicans have a clear majority in all three houses. They can reopen if they want to.
- Erem 1y agoDid any of these 10 votes meaningfully address concerns of the objecting representatives?
- dfxm12 1y agoOut of touch billionaires are running the show, insulated from the problems they are creating. They are people who never have to set foot in a grocery store, worry about paying for a doctor's visit or, importantly here, fly commercial.
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- terminalshort 1y ago[flagged]
- TFYS 1y agoCommon man votes for the people the billionaire owned media and billionaire funded parties tell them to vote for.
- terminalshort 1y agoNo they don't. The common man voted for Trump in 2016 when all the billionaires and big money were behind HRC. The "billionaire owned" media has had a terminal case of Trump derangement syndrome for the last 10 years. If anybody listened to their hysterics anymore Trump would have lost in a landslide. We aren't secretly run by billionaires. That's a brain dead conspiracy theory.
- 1718627440 1y ago> If billionaires were running the show it would be much more competently run, at least. Citation needed.
- senordevnyc 1y agoI suspect we'd have no more shutdowns if the billionaires couldn't fly their private jets anymore. We should push for a law that grounds ALL part 91 (corporate and private) and part 135 (on demand air taxi) flights if the federal government shuts down, with the only exception being for medical flights (and no non-essential passengers allowed on those flights).
- SilverElfin 1y agoDivisiveness and extremism from both parties, when moderates are badly needed. On the issue of the shutdown specifically, there was some belief that Democrats (Schumer in particular) would approve a CR (resolution to fund the federal government) after the second “no kings” protest or perhaps after the election, like maybe it was a political tool they wanted to use for election gains. But it seems they’re content with just letting the shutdown continue indefinitely unless the COVID era “temporary” expansion of ACA subsidies is extended - which is effectively trying to make it permanent.
- qotgalaxy 1y ago[dead]
- kccoder 1y agoThe establishment dems are moderates. Frustratingly so. What we need are politicians who support regular citizens over the rich and corporations. At least the dems are fighting for something that helps people in need vs the republican’s BBB.
- the_real_cher 1y ago“If there was a shutdown, I think it would leave a tremendously negative mark on the president of the United States. He's the one that has to get people together.” - Donald Trump 2013 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/G1m9mWg3xYk https://www.youtube.com/shorts/G1m9mWg3xYk The republicans have control of every major branch of government and it's still somehow the Dems fault.
- voxl 1y agoGod forbid you actually have to interact with an extermist on the left if you think the geriatric liberals running the show in the democratic party are any kind of extremist.
- cloverich 1y agoTo be clear is the argument that wanting to keep subsidies that maintain healthcare for a few million Americans, at the cost of approximately 10% of the cost of the recent tax breaks passed by Republicans, is extremism? The republicans get everything else they want right? Given the national debt is not the concern (eg because they just cut taxes), what is the issue exactly?
- strathmeyer 1y ago[dead]