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In 10-20-30 years, which one do you think you'll be able to maintain - obscure VW ID.4.324.7-cz or Tesla Model Y?
by dzhiurgis 1y ago
In 10-20-30 years, which one do you think you'll be able to maintain - obscure VW ID.4.324.7-cz or Tesla Model Y?
- _aavaa_ 1y agoIs this a trick question? I know the Tesla software locks as much as possible to prevent third party repairs.
- dzhiurgis 1y agoHuh? All cars are software locked. With Tesla at least you can pay $5 per day to use their tools (and you NEED their tools because they are up to date with cars firmware). I'm sure once cars are EOL'd Tesla will release final version of diagnostics, like they did with Roadster - https://github.com/teslamotors/roadster https://github.com/teslamotors/roadster
- gnabgib 1y agoAll? My 1927 Ford doesn't seem to understand bluetooth
- bryanlarsen 1y agoThe VW, obviously. With most parts shared across 13 models and all models static for at least a year and usually longer. Plus VW has a good history of parts availability. Tesla on the other hand is famous for both making minor changes to their vehicles pretty much continuously and a bad history of parts availability.
- dzhiurgis 1y ago1M cars over 13 models mean you’ll have no parts at all. 10M identical cars means there’s massive third party supply. Parts are already cheaper than Toyota’s.
- rsynnott 1y agoTeslas very much aren't identical over models. Remember this? https://www.extremetech.com/cars/314871-tesla-model-y-owners-confused-to-find-wood-bracing-car-components https://www.extremetech.com/cars/314871-tesla-model-y-owners...
- dzhiurgis 1y agoMoot point over a bracket when car has over 30k total parts.
- bryanlarsen 1y agoA typical car sells tens of thousands per year and has no problem with parts availability. 1M cars is even easier.
- dzhiurgis 1y agoRivian and Lucid sells like 15k per quarter and is on verge of bankruptcy.
- orwin 1y agoI have hosted the models (mostly regression and random forest) WV use to predict missing part availability at their dealership in 2018-2020 (considering sales in the area, average fabrication/delivery time, likeliness of the part having to be replaced, probably others). I guarantee you that even if I don't like their car, their dealership will very likely have the part you need around the time you need it. It's not the only car-adjacent company that does something like this (Valeo for sure does it too, i worked with them also), but I'm pretty sure it's the only one who has an internal data scientist team working on it.
- dzhiurgis 1y ago[flagged]
- rsynnott 1y ago... What makes you think a VW ID.4 is obscure? I think it's usually the best-selling electric car in Europe. You see way more of those with recent (last few years) registrations in Dublin than Teslas.
- dzhiurgis 1y agoLess than 1M units total sold worldwide or about 10x less.