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Would be great to read about it but my residential internet has apparently been blocked for "malicious activity".

chrsw 1y ago
This is dangerously disruptive content.
protoster 1y ago
Residential internets are now proxies for AI scrapers. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45741357 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45741357
- fragmede 1y ago
  specifically, “free” VPN isn’t free. They use your computer that has the VPN software installed as an exit nodes for other customers. Those other customers hammer websites for their AI until it gets blocked. Sucks for you, unfortunately. Talk to your kids about the dangers of VPNs before it's too late.
  - cuu508 1y ago
    Which VPNs are like that?
    - fragmede 1y ago
      Hola is the big one, but in practice, if we hypothesis that no one's running a VPN as a charity, free VPN products need to make money someway, and if you're not paying to use it, how else are they gonna make money? So basically be suspicious of every single "free" or suspiciously cheap VPN. Go with known brands that come recommended by mulitple people, especially from people "in the know". Though PirateSoftware (a person) has a good bit on why he doesn't advertise for VPNs on his channel.
      - WorldMaker 1y ago
        Hola's worst division got spun out into a separate company, Bright Data. Bright Data's worst innovations since "Free VPN" are using those "Watch this ad for 30 seconds for bonus in-game currency" things in many, many awful mobile games and using those as a "opt-in" signal to use the user's device for those 30 seconds (or however long) as an exit node for whatever scanning/botting processes they resell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bright_Data https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bright_Data
    - ErroneousBosh 1y ago
      All the ones you don't construct for yourself out of an inexpensive VPS.
      - shermantanktop 1y ago
        your preferences don't sound like facts. Are you claiming that paid VPNs "all" do this as well?
        ErroneousBosh 1y ago
        How do you think they make money?
        Wingman4l7 1y ago
        ...through the subscription fee.
        ErroneousBosh 1y ago
        And from selling your data to whoever shows up with enough cash. What, you think they're leaving that money sitting on the table?
        cuu508 1y ago
        It's one thing to operate with an assumption that any VPN other than your own should not be fully trusted. It's another thing to claim all of them are obviously corrupt.
        ErroneousBosh 1y ago
        If you had a company whose core business proposition was Quite Obviously Shady, would you expect them to be scrupulously legit in other areas? Quick question for you - rhino poaching is a huge problem in Africa, with poachers getting a surprisingly small amount of money per rhino they shoot, because the buyers only want the horns. Do you think paying the poachers more to not shoot the rhinos would solve that problem?
bityard 1y ago
From the pictures, this is the kind of vehicle that you would gladly pay extra to have delivered to your second vacation home so you can park it next to your 6 other semi-exotic cars and drive it half a mile to the country club on Saturdays. If that is not your demographic, they might have geo-located your IP and blocked you based on the median income of your area. (Only half joking.)
- ErroneousBosh 1y ago
  It's about 44 grand. It's definitely not "country club" money. Not a hell of a lot more than say a Fiat 500E convertible, and quite a bit cooler.
- mikestew 1y ago
  Oh, c’mon, it’s 44K. One can easily spend 30K or more on a motorcycle these days, we are a long way from “country club” prices. If it came to the U. S., I’d probably pick one up to park next to our Hyundai (yeah, a Hyundai, not a Range Rover).
  - rounce 1y ago
    30k? What motorbikes would they be?
    - mikestew 1y ago
      It’s not hard at all if you go Harley-Davidson. My BMW R1200GSA was $27K when I bought it ten years ago, I can’t imagine they’ve gone down in price.
  - BizarroLand 1y ago
    About $51,000 USD if it were even eligible for import.
  - Brian_K_White 1y ago
    $44k for something useless. Why are you guys ignoring that part of the equation and only talking about $44k as though it's the same as the $44k everyone else spends on that Hyundai that they actually need to be useful and haul kids and tools and furniture around a country that's bigger than the Netherlands all day every day like a mule? Those are two entirely different $44k.
dlcarrier 1y ago
You're Web browser probably isn't leaking enough identifiable information for the site to judge whether or not you're a bot, so it default to denying you.
ErroneousBosh 1y ago
It looks like a kit car version of a Porsche 356 crossed with a Nissan Figaro. It actually looks rather more expensive than it is - it's about 44,000EUR putting it at the same sort of money as a Focus ST. Expensive toy, but not horribly so. Unsure what it's based on, probably (like the Figaro) some fairly inexpensive existing car's subframes.

This is dangerously disruptive content.

Residential internets are now proxies for AI scrapers. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45741357 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45741357

fragmede 1y ago
specifically, “free” VPN isn’t free. They use your computer that has the VPN software installed as an exit nodes for other customers. Those other customers hammer websites for their AI until it gets blocked. Sucks for you, unfortunately. Talk to your kids about the dangers of VPNs before it's too late.
- cuu508 1y ago
  Which VPNs are like that?
  - fragmede 1y ago
    Hola is the big one, but in practice, if we hypothesis that no one's running a VPN as a charity, free VPN products need to make money someway, and if you're not paying to use it, how else are they gonna make money? So basically be suspicious of every single "free" or suspiciously cheap VPN. Go with known brands that come recommended by mulitple people, especially from people "in the know". Though PirateSoftware (a person) has a good bit on why he doesn't advertise for VPNs on his channel.
    - WorldMaker 1y ago
      Hola's worst division got spun out into a separate company, Bright Data. Bright Data's worst innovations since "Free VPN" are using those "Watch this ad for 30 seconds for bonus in-game currency" things in many, many awful mobile games and using those as a "opt-in" signal to use the user's device for those 30 seconds (or however long) as an exit node for whatever scanning/botting processes they resell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bright_Data https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bright_Data
  - ErroneousBosh 1y ago
    All the ones you don't construct for yourself out of an inexpensive VPS.
    - shermantanktop 1y ago
      your preferences don't sound like facts. Are you claiming that paid VPNs "all" do this as well?
      - ErroneousBosh 1y ago
        How do you think they make money?
        Wingman4l7 1y ago
        ...through the subscription fee.
        ErroneousBosh 1y ago
        And from selling your data to whoever shows up with enough cash. What, you think they're leaving that money sitting on the table?
        cuu508 1y ago
        It's one thing to operate with an assumption that any VPN other than your own should not be fully trusted. It's another thing to claim all of them are obviously corrupt.
        ErroneousBosh 1y ago
        If you had a company whose core business proposition was Quite Obviously Shady, would you expect them to be scrupulously legit in other areas? Quick question for you - rhino poaching is a huge problem in Africa, with poachers getting a surprisingly small amount of money per rhino they shoot, because the buyers only want the horns. Do you think paying the poachers more to not shoot the rhinos would solve that problem?

bityard 1y ago

From the pictures, this is the kind of vehicle that you would gladly pay extra to have delivered to your second vacation home so you can park it next to your 6 other semi-exotic cars and drive it half a mile to the country club on Saturdays. If that is not your demographic, they might have geo-located your IP and blocked you based on the median income of your area. (Only half joking.)

ErroneousBosh 1y ago
It's about 44 grand. It's definitely not "country club" money. Not a hell of a lot more than say a Fiat 500E convertible, and quite a bit cooler.
mikestew 1y ago
Oh, c’mon, it’s 44K. One can easily spend 30K or more on a motorcycle these days, we are a long way from “country club” prices. If it came to the U. S., I’d probably pick one up to park next to our Hyundai (yeah, a Hyundai, not a Range Rover).
- rounce 1y ago
  30k? What motorbikes would they be?
  - mikestew 1y ago
    It’s not hard at all if you go Harley-Davidson. My BMW R1200GSA was $27K when I bought it ten years ago, I can’t imagine they’ve gone down in price.
- BizarroLand 1y ago
  About $51,000 USD if it were even eligible for import.
- Brian_K_White 1y ago
  $44k for something useless. Why are you guys ignoring that part of the equation and only talking about $44k as though it's the same as the $44k everyone else spends on that Hyundai that they actually need to be useful and haul kids and tools and furniture around a country that's bigger than the Netherlands all day every day like a mule? Those are two entirely different $44k.

dlcarrier 1y ago

You're Web browser probably isn't leaking enough identifiable information for the site to judge whether or not you're a bot, so it default to denying you.

ErroneousBosh 1y ago

It looks like a kit car version of a Porsche 356 crossed with a Nissan Figaro. It actually looks rather more expensive than it is - it's about 44,000EUR putting it at the same sort of money as a Focus ST. Expensive toy, but not horribly so. Unsure what it's based on, probably (like the Figaro) some fairly inexpensive existing car's subframes.