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Oh, yet another luxury EV. Wake me up when a manufacturer finally commits to making an EV that everyone can afford and isn't a cloud-connected privacy nightmar

Oh, yet another luxury EV. Wake me up when a manufacturer finally commits to making an EV that everyone can afford and isn't a cloud-connected privacy nightmare.

ErroneousBosh 1y ago
It's a few grand more than a Focus ST. Hardly "luxury" money.
- zokier 1y ago
  For a toy? definitely "luxury money"
  - ErroneousBosh 1y ago
    I wouldn't say a "toy". Depending on your needs you could easily daily a 2-seater convertible with a couple of hundred miles range.
    - ibejoeb 1y ago
      Yeah toy might be a little negative. I think it's a leisure vehicle, and, at least as I read the marketing, they're leaning into that. Seems like the extended range model is 300km. If you need a car, you probably don't want it to be this one.
Upvoter33 1y ago
Don’t know the cost here but I would fathom it’s not “cloud connected”
- brianshaler 1y ago
  > What is the price of a Carice TC2? > Prices for a TC2 start at €44.500 excluding taxes (€53.854 including 21% btw/Dutch tax).
  - Upvoter33 1y ago
    I guess that makes it a luxury EV ...
ihumanable 1y ago
I'm holding out hope for https://www.slate.auto/en https://www.slate.auto/en I know it's somehow associated with Amazon, is it going to be a cloud-connected privacy nightmare. I haven't heard anything about it, but I also wouldn't be surprised.
- dlcarrier 1y ago
  It rumored to have VC funding from Besos, but that doesn't give them special access to Amazon nor Amazon special access to Slat. It can lead to conflicts of interest (see also: https://www.law.com/delbizcourt/2025/10/29/attorney-for-amazon-shareholder-failing-to-question-bezos-blue-origin-conflict-constitutes-bad-faith/ https://www.law.com/delbizcourt/2025/10/29/attorney-for-amaz...) but that's a far cry from significant data sharing.
- jonah 1y ago
  Slate doesn't have infotainment. It's BYOD with a dashboard mount and a USB connection for car integration. I haven't heard specifically about connectedness otherwise, but I highly doubt there is a hidden SIM card in there somewhere.
rw-j 1y ago
It's 45k for a very unique car built in the EU. I don't think the price tag is that bad, honestly. It's a fun car for people who already have 2 others.
RubenvanE 1y ago
The car starts at about €45k, about the same price as a Tesla Model 3!
- jacquesm 1y ago
  That's ex VAT.
rgmerk 1y ago
Privacy nightmare undoubtedly, but if you want affordable EVs BYD has you covered. A fully-functional, crash-worthy and apparently quite decent EV for around 16,000 USD (in Australia). If you can't buy one, blame your government: https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-reviews/2026-byd-atto-1-review-quick-drive https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-reviews/2026-byd-atto-1-rev...
- ibejoeb 1y ago
  What do you mean by crash-worthy? Like it's so cheap it doesn't matter if you wreck it, or that you're likely to survive if you're in a crash?
  - rgmerk 1y ago
    It means you're likely to survive in a crash. The Cerice is lovely but if you have a high-speed crash with another car in it you're in big trouble.
cestith 1y ago
It’s a shame the Nissan Leaf has so many privacy issues, because otherwise the price is good.

Oh, yet another luxury EV. Wake me up when a manufacturer finally commits to making an EV that everyone can afford and isn't a cloud-connected privacy nightmare.

ErroneousBosh 1y ago

It's a few grand more than a Focus ST. Hardly "luxury" money.

zokier 1y ago
For a toy? definitely "luxury money"
- ErroneousBosh 1y ago
  I wouldn't say a "toy". Depending on your needs you could easily daily a 2-seater convertible with a couple of hundred miles range.
  - ibejoeb 1y ago
    Yeah toy might be a little negative. I think it's a leisure vehicle, and, at least as I read the marketing, they're leaning into that. Seems like the extended range model is 300km. If you need a car, you probably don't want it to be this one.

Upvoter33 1y ago

Don’t know the cost here but I would fathom it’s not “cloud connected”

brianshaler 1y ago
> What is the price of a Carice TC2? > Prices for a TC2 start at €44.500 excluding taxes (€53.854 including 21% btw/Dutch tax).
- Upvoter33 1y ago
  I guess that makes it a luxury EV ...

ihumanable 1y ago

I'm holding out hope for https://www.slate.auto/en https://www.slate.auto/en I know it's somehow associated with Amazon, is it going to be a cloud-connected privacy nightmare. I haven't heard anything about it, but I also wouldn't be surprised.

dlcarrier 1y ago
It rumored to have VC funding from Besos, but that doesn't give them special access to Amazon nor Amazon special access to Slat. It can lead to conflicts of interest (see also: https://www.law.com/delbizcourt/2025/10/29/attorney-for-amazon-shareholder-failing-to-question-bezos-blue-origin-conflict-constitutes-bad-faith/ https://www.law.com/delbizcourt/2025/10/29/attorney-for-amaz...) but that's a far cry from significant data sharing.
jonah 1y ago
Slate doesn't have infotainment. It's BYOD with a dashboard mount and a USB connection for car integration. I haven't heard specifically about connectedness otherwise, but I highly doubt there is a hidden SIM card in there somewhere.

rw-j 1y ago

It's 45k for a very unique car built in the EU. I don't think the price tag is that bad, honestly. It's a fun car for people who already have 2 others.

RubenvanE 1y ago

The car starts at about €45k, about the same price as a Tesla Model 3!

jacquesm 1y ago
That's ex VAT.

rgmerk 1y ago

Privacy nightmare undoubtedly, but if you want affordable EVs BYD has you covered. A fully-functional, crash-worthy and apparently quite decent EV for around 16,000 USD (in Australia). If you can't buy one, blame your government: https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-reviews/2026-byd-atto-1-review-quick-drive https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-reviews/2026-byd-atto-1-rev...

ibejoeb 1y ago
What do you mean by crash-worthy? Like it's so cheap it doesn't matter if you wreck it, or that you're likely to survive if you're in a crash?
- rgmerk 1y ago
  It means you're likely to survive in a crash. The Cerice is lovely but if you have a high-speed crash with another car in it you're in big trouble.

cestith 1y ago

It’s a shame the Nissan Leaf has so many privacy issues, because otherwise the price is good.