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> Not "abolish", reduce funding. Yeah, I understand that's what people are saying to rationalize it. And like I said: we'll find out! But see my reply to the s

by timr 1y ago

> Not "abolish", reduce funding. Yeah, I understand that's what people are saying to rationalize it. And like I said: we'll find out! But see my reply to the sibling comment, where I link directly to his words: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45820126 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45820126 He's well-documented, saying many times, in many different variations, in many different places, that he wants to eliminate prisons, "dismantle" the police, and so on. One or two comments you might be able to brush aside, but this is a consistent pattern.

whoooboyy 1y ago
That's what people are saying when they say defund. Reduce funding for. Consistently this is what anyone who says defund the police has always meant. You gotta take off the tin foil hat, my guy. "We'll find out" haha, you think he's going to shut down the nypd? They have an operating budget of what, $6 billion dollars annually? He's not going to shut them down, you can't just stop a $6b organization. You can, however, defund it. Maybe they could do just fine with $5 billion. If the city has an extra billion to spend on building housing or improving transit or providing health care or services to the homeless... a billion dollars a year buys a lot of things.
- johnnyanmac 1y ago
  These kinds of folk will panic over "defund the police" as if it's shutting down an entire office. Meanwhile this administration proceeds to effectively shut down the DoED in all but name and we get a shrug back. It becomes very hard to assume good faith in such situations.
  - pirates 1y ago
    There is no reason to assume good faith anymore. They revel in bad faith arguments
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- timr 1y ago
  He literally, repeatedly said “defund and dismantle”. He’s not trying to be subtle. I’m not taking anything out of context. It’s obvious that he didn’t mean “reduce funding”, and while that may be what you think is reasonable, it’s not what he meant when he said it. I’ve given you the receipts. You have to be trying really hard to interpret that in the way you’re trying to do it, “my guy.” I’m just reading his words and taking him seriously.

by timr 1y ago

whoooboyy 1y ago

That's what people are saying when they say defund. Reduce funding for. Consistently this is what anyone who says defund the police has always meant. You gotta take off the tin foil hat, my guy. "We'll find out" haha, you think he's going to shut down the nypd? They have an operating budget of what, $6 billion dollars annually? He's not going to shut them down, you can't just stop a $6b organization. You can, however, defund it. Maybe they could do just fine with $5 billion. If the city has an extra billion to spend on building housing or improving transit or providing health care or services to the homeless... a billion dollars a year buys a lot of things.

johnnyanmac 1y ago
These kinds of folk will panic over "defund the police" as if it's shutting down an entire office. Meanwhile this administration proceeds to effectively shut down the DoED in all but name and we get a shrug back. It becomes very hard to assume good faith in such situations.
- pirates 1y ago
  There is no reason to assume good faith anymore. They revel in bad faith arguments
- deleted 1y ago
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timr 1y ago
He literally, repeatedly said “defund and dismantle”. He’s not trying to be subtle. I’m not taking anything out of context. It’s obvious that he didn’t mean “reduce funding”, and while that may be what you think is reasonable, it’s not what he meant when he said it. I’ve given you the receipts. You have to be trying really hard to interpret that in the way you’re trying to do it, “my guy.” I’m just reading his words and taking him seriously.