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it works out to +/- an accident every 60,000 in a tesla robotaxi with a human operator. i would calculate it that way to compare it to the last stat i had on w

it works out to +/- an accident every 60,000 in a tesla robotaxi with a human operator. i would calculate it that way to compare it to the last stat i had on waymo which was +/- an accident every 98,000 in an unattended vehicle. comparing that to a human driver using stats from [0] the “AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety” page down for maintenance, but summarized at [1]: ages 16-17: crash every 69,000mi ages 18-19: crash every 136,986mi ages 20-29: crash every 182,149mi ages 30-79: crash < every 303,030mi ages 80: crash every 231,481mi [0]: https://aaafoundation.org/rates-motor-vehicle-crashes-injuries-deaths-relation-driver-age-united-states-2014-2015/ https://aaafoundation.org/rates-motor-vehicle-crashes-injuri... [1]: https://www.friedmansimon.com/faqs/how-common-are-car-accidents/ https://www.friedmansimon.com/faqs/how-common-are-car-accide... with that said: unattended vehicles are required to report every single incident no matter how minor or who is at fault. adults might just shrug off a minor contact and get on with their day without reporting or claiming it.

amelius 11mo ago
What if another party caused the accident?
- razingeden 11mo ago
  they still have to report it. readily located a variety of news outlets investigating the same question and summarizing that in waymos case human drivers were mostly at fault… even if you ignore stuff that smacks of PR/industry or from waymo itself… piling on to the flaws in comparing these: waymos operate in major metros that just have higher crashes and claims to begin with. im spitballing with nationwide averages but i think a serious inquiry/research would have to drill into the crash rates for the cities theyre operating in and where each incident occurred. eg, i live in los angeles and have over 2,000,000 incident free miles out here but ive been hit no less than four times in austin TX and doubt i even cracked 20,000mi there. I’d be interested in how waymo compares against LA drivers operating in LA…… against Austin drivers operating in Austin. More so than how they compare to all drivers on average nationwide. Without assessing that… say if waymo has a comparable incident rate as Tesla in Austin, youd be overlooking that by comparing a company operating in multiple markets- to one thats only in Austin. https://www.azfamily.com/2025/05/01/what-happens-when-waymo-is-fault-crash/ https://www.azfamily.com/2025/05/01/what-happens-when-waymo-... https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/03/after-50-million-miles-waymos-crash-a-lot-less-than-human-drivers/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/03/after-50-million-miles-...

amelius 11mo ago

What if another party caused the accident?

razingeden 11mo ago
they still have to report it. readily located a variety of news outlets investigating the same question and summarizing that in waymos case human drivers were mostly at fault… even if you ignore stuff that smacks of PR/industry or from waymo itself… piling on to the flaws in comparing these: waymos operate in major metros that just have higher crashes and claims to begin with. im spitballing with nationwide averages but i think a serious inquiry/research would have to drill into the crash rates for the cities theyre operating in and where each incident occurred. eg, i live in los angeles and have over 2,000,000 incident free miles out here but ive been hit no less than four times in austin TX and doubt i even cracked 20,000mi there. I’d be interested in how waymo compares against LA drivers operating in LA…… against Austin drivers operating in Austin. More so than how they compare to all drivers on average nationwide. Without assessing that… say if waymo has a comparable incident rate as Tesla in Austin, youd be overlooking that by comparing a company operating in multiple markets- to one thats only in Austin. https://www.azfamily.com/2025/05/01/what-happens-when-waymo-is-fault-crash/ https://www.azfamily.com/2025/05/01/what-happens-when-waymo-... https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/03/after-50-million-miles-waymos-crash-a-lot-less-than-human-drivers/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/03/after-50-million-miles-...