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ICE plans cash rewards for private bounty hunters to locate and track immigrants

44 points by clanky 1y ago

yogorenapan 1y ago
Even if I was a citizen or legal immigrant, I would just leave at this point. First they came for the communists... (Yes I know a lot of people can't leave. Maybe the US needs to do a Nepal and overthrow this corrupt government)
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > Maybe the US needs to do a Nepal and overthrow this corrupt government What do you think the current crop want? In any new revolution, the rich consolidate power. Same as has happened in pretty much every non-communist popular revolution over the last two centuries.
  - saubeidl 1y ago
    ... you are mentioning the solution yourself. What is needed is a communist popular revolution, it's the only hope left for the country.
    - 0_____0 1y ago
      Revolutions rarely change the underlying social and economic structures in their host nations. The paths that wealth and power travel are too well groomed for their inheritors to ignore.
      - actionfromafar 1y ago
        The US is possibly too free now to have a proper revolution. A key requisite for a revolution to be successful is that the population just accepts the new leaders. I think it’s a coin flip now if that requisite is met. Of course the alternative isn’t peaceful either, but more like a civil war or at least factions going after each other. This is why even flawed democracy is better. The alternatives are just horrible.
    - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
      > What is needed is a communist popular revolution, it's the only hope left for the country Communist popular revolutions succeeded in replacing the previous elites. None of them—apart from departure from Tsarist mismanagement, and even then only for a short run—resulted in a higher quality of life for the people. History rarely has justice. Idiots overthrowing flawed democracies reaping and then getting stomped on by the ensuing autocrats are a rare example. (The others are terrorism and strategic bombing backfiring. Pretty much always.)
      - clanky 1y ago
        > Communist popular revolutions succeeded in replacing the previous elites. None of them resulted in a higher quality of life for the people. Utterly and demonstrably false.
        JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        > Utterly and demonstrably false Fair enough, I added the exception that’s known. If someone thinks there is Tsarist-level economic mismanagement in America to be reaped by a new regime, I have a DOGE to sell them.
        clanky 1y ago
        China and Cuba were also both unquestionably improvements over the status quo. The neoliberal turn in Russia in the 1990s, meanwhile, was an unmitigated humanitarian disaster, and the removal of the USSR as an alternative on the world stage unshackled Western capital to the current relentless pursuit of advantage that has yielded today's K-shaped economy and all the instability, misery, and scapegoating of powerless groups like migrants that has come with it.
        JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        > China and Cuba were also both unquestionably improvements over the status quo Fair enough. I'd point out that both had low baselines, and the former managed to still fuck that up under Mao. China's living standards dropped post Revolution, and didn't really start materially improving until its leaders had swapped away from communism. By that point, they proceeded to fabulously enrich themselves. > neoliberal turn in Russia in the 1990s, meanwhile, was an unmitigated humanitarian disaster Agree. > unshackled Western capital to the current relentless pursuit of advantage that has yielded today's K-shaped economy This was happening since at least the 1980s.
saubeidl 1y ago
See also: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-dec-01-adfg-bountyhunt1-story.html https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-dec-01-adfg-bou... Everything old is new again. Never again is now.
actionfromafar 1y ago
A LOT of money is about to be redirected into the GOP/Trump/Maga private military.
- DANmode 1y ago
  Palantir stock price and federal contract movement are already performing well.
  - toomuchtodo 1y ago
    The trick is to figure out how to grift the grifters.
    - clanky 1y ago
      Then what? You've got yourself a nice nest egg to spend in a prison state?
      - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        > Then what? Then you use the profuse records these folks leave in their wake to back through to everyone who profited from or otherwise aided and abetted this Gestapo. Down to the individual agents and “forward deployed” engineers. (To be clear, I support stricter immigration enforcement. ICE blowing the military budget of Saudi Arabia to deport fewer than Obama did with a tenth of a budget isn’t immigration enforcement, it’s a partisan militia. I don’t use the term Gestapo lightly.)
        deleted 1y ago
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sodokuwizard 1y ago
someone better get on a private bounty hunter job portal and sell it back to the government to make some real money on each cash reward. Or crowdfunded hire a bounty hunter to hunt the bounty hunter network /s Our society is so damn dystopian now sheesh
AnimalMuppet 1y ago
So now, if you don't like someone, you can ICE them instead of SWATting them. Great.
JumpCrisscross 1y ago
Why is this unacceptable for immigration enforcement but acceptable for even petty criminals?
- yladiz 1y ago
  Define acceptable.
- beardyw 1y ago
  I don't understand. What are you refering to?
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > What are you refering to? Normal bounty hunters. I’m asking why this feels different. (Civil v criminal doesn’t seem to be meaningful. Maybe it’s the bond?)
    - watwut 1y ago
      Is there such a thing as "normal bounty hunter hunting petty criminals"? I have doubts about "normal bounty hunter" even without "petty criminal" part added to it.
      - renata 1y ago
        Heck, they even make TV shows about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_the_Bounty_Hunter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_the_Bounty_Hunter !
        harambae 1y ago
        They also have a tv show dedicated to selling off storage units that are unpaid, but my friend whose family owns a large chain of storage units has told me that it’s basically fake. (He said usually the unpaid units are filled with something worthless and on the off chance they’re not, it’s donated to charity) So now I question all these shows a bit.
mitchbob 1y ago
https://archive.ph/2025.11.01-213415/https://theintercept.com/2025/10/31/ice-plans-cash-rewards-for-private-bounty-hunters-to-locate-and-track-immigrants/ https://archive.ph/2025.11.01-213415/https://theintercept.co...

44 points by clanky 1y ago

Even if I was a citizen or legal immigrant, I would just leave at this point. First they came for the communists... (Yes I know a lot of people can't leave. Maybe the US needs to do a Nepal and overthrow this corrupt government)

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> Maybe the US needs to do a Nepal and overthrow this corrupt government What do you think the current crop want? In any new revolution, the rich consolidate power. Same as has happened in pretty much every non-communist popular revolution over the last two centuries.
- saubeidl 1y ago
  ... you are mentioning the solution yourself. What is needed is a communist popular revolution, it's the only hope left for the country.
  - 0_____0 1y ago
    Revolutions rarely change the underlying social and economic structures in their host nations. The paths that wealth and power travel are too well groomed for their inheritors to ignore.
    - actionfromafar 1y ago
      The US is possibly too free now to have a proper revolution. A key requisite for a revolution to be successful is that the population just accepts the new leaders. I think it’s a coin flip now if that requisite is met. Of course the alternative isn’t peaceful either, but more like a civil war or at least factions going after each other. This is why even flawed democracy is better. The alternatives are just horrible.
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > What is needed is a communist popular revolution, it's the only hope left for the country Communist popular revolutions succeeded in replacing the previous elites. None of them—apart from departure from Tsarist mismanagement, and even then only for a short run—resulted in a higher quality of life for the people. History rarely has justice. Idiots overthrowing flawed democracies reaping and then getting stomped on by the ensuing autocrats are a rare example. (The others are terrorism and strategic bombing backfiring. Pretty much always.)
    - clanky 1y ago
      > Communist popular revolutions succeeded in replacing the previous elites. None of them resulted in a higher quality of life for the people. Utterly and demonstrably false.
      - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        > Utterly and demonstrably false Fair enough, I added the exception that’s known. If someone thinks there is Tsarist-level economic mismanagement in America to be reaped by a new regime, I have a DOGE to sell them.
        clanky 1y ago
        China and Cuba were also both unquestionably improvements over the status quo. The neoliberal turn in Russia in the 1990s, meanwhile, was an unmitigated humanitarian disaster, and the removal of the USSR as an alternative on the world stage unshackled Western capital to the current relentless pursuit of advantage that has yielded today's K-shaped economy and all the instability, misery, and scapegoating of powerless groups like migrants that has come with it.
        JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        > China and Cuba were also both unquestionably improvements over the status quo Fair enough. I'd point out that both had low baselines, and the former managed to still fuck that up under Mao. China's living standards dropped post Revolution, and didn't really start materially improving until its leaders had swapped away from communism. By that point, they proceeded to fabulously enrich themselves. > neoliberal turn in Russia in the 1990s, meanwhile, was an unmitigated humanitarian disaster Agree. > unshackled Western capital to the current relentless pursuit of advantage that has yielded today's K-shaped economy This was happening since at least the 1980s.

saubeidl 1y ago

See also: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-dec-01-adfg-bountyhunt1-story.html https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-dec-01-adfg-bou... Everything old is new again. Never again is now.

actionfromafar 1y ago

A LOT of money is about to be redirected into the GOP/Trump/Maga private military.

DANmode 1y ago
Palantir stock price and federal contract movement are already performing well.
- toomuchtodo 1y ago
  The trick is to figure out how to grift the grifters.
  - clanky 1y ago
    Then what? You've got yourself a nice nest egg to spend in a prison state?
    - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
      > Then what? Then you use the profuse records these folks leave in their wake to back through to everyone who profited from or otherwise aided and abetted this Gestapo. Down to the individual agents and “forward deployed” engineers. (To be clear, I support stricter immigration enforcement. ICE blowing the military budget of Saudi Arabia to deport fewer than Obama did with a tenth of a budget isn’t immigration enforcement, it’s a partisan militia. I don’t use the term Gestapo lightly.)
      - deleted 1y ago
        [deleted]

sodokuwizard 1y ago

someone better get on a private bounty hunter job portal and sell it back to the government to make some real money on each cash reward. Or crowdfunded hire a bounty hunter to hunt the bounty hunter network /s Our society is so damn dystopian now sheesh

AnimalMuppet 1y ago

So now, if you don't like someone, you can ICE them instead of SWATting them. Great.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago

Why is this unacceptable for immigration enforcement but acceptable for even petty criminals?

yladiz 1y ago
Define acceptable.
beardyw 1y ago
I don't understand. What are you refering to?
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > What are you refering to? Normal bounty hunters. I’m asking why this feels different. (Civil v criminal doesn’t seem to be meaningful. Maybe it’s the bond?)
  - watwut 1y ago
    Is there such a thing as "normal bounty hunter hunting petty criminals"? I have doubts about "normal bounty hunter" even without "petty criminal" part added to it.
    - renata 1y ago
      Heck, they even make TV shows about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_the_Bounty_Hunter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_the_Bounty_Hunter !
      - harambae 1y ago
        They also have a tv show dedicated to selling off storage units that are unpaid, but my friend whose family owns a large chain of storage units has told me that it’s basically fake. (He said usually the unpaid units are filled with something worthless and on the off chance they’re not, it’s donated to charity) So now I question all these shows a bit.

mitchbob 1y ago

https://archive.ph/2025.11.01-213415/https://theintercept.com/2025/10/31/ice-plans-cash-rewards-for-private-bounty-hunters-to-locate-and-track-immigrants/ https://archive.ph/2025.11.01-213415/https://theintercept.co...