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It's weird that you get offended by something which was not directed at you. "The work" is providing those better alternatives to anubis, that everyone in this
by mariusor 1y ago
It's weird that you get offended by something which was not directed at you.
"The work" is providing those better alternatives to anubis, that everyone in this thread except for Xe seem to know all about.
The humility is about accepting the fact that the solution works for some people, the small site operators that get hammered by DDoSes and unethical LLM over crawling, despite not being perfect. And if that inconveniences you as a user of those sites - which I imagine is what you mean by "user backlash", the solution for you is to stop going there, not talk down at them for doing something about an issue that impacts them.
- yumechii 1y agoHow am I offended? Did I accuse you of anything? I didn't even accuse Anubis of anything. You asked for the work, I post the work and evidence to ground the discussion in "work", as you demanded.
- mariusor 1y agoI repeat "the work" is to make a better thing than Anubis, not provide proof of concept that it can be beaten. :)
- yumechii 1y agoYou criticized what you identified as an "advice" for not providing work to your scope (which you clarified as "make a better thing than Anubis"), why should I suddenly have to meet your scope of "work" to be a valid criticism of your advice this time? Showing a negative result is also work.
- mariusor 1y agoIf you're operating your reasoning in a moral framework where helping the bad agents is a good outcome, then you'd be right. I personally do not, however.
- yumechii 1y agoIf your moral framework is supporting a nominally good "solution" with no evidence (where if your evidence that your assertion the solution is "proven"?) is "a good outcome", pointing out the solution is flawed, with evidence, is somehow not, then you'd be right. I personally do not share your nominal goodness compass, however.
- mariusor 1y agoCodeberg and sourcehut[1] have both blogged about Anubis decreasing loads on their servers at the beginning of the year when this saga has started. Since then, one, or both have moved to different solutions, but that was not due to ineffectiveness but rather to requiring JavaScript. [1] https://sourcehut.org/blog/2025-04-15-you-cannot-have-our-users-data/ https://sourcehut.org/blog/2025-04-15-you-cannot-have-our-us...
- yumechii 1y agoEmpirical evidence is more robust than anecdotal evidence. Also, a lower "server load" has nothing to do with the system being collectively "a good outcome" that justifies labeling criticism as supporting "the bad guys".