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https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/oct/28/uk-military-equipment-rapid-support-forces-rsf-militia-accused-genocide-found-sudan-united-nations ht

by dabber 11mo ago

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/oct/28/uk-military-equipment-rapid-support-forces-rsf-militia-accused-genocide-found-sudan-united-nations https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/oct/28/u...

victorbjorklund 11mo ago
says it was not supplied by US/UK but rather UAE.
- defrost 11mo ago
  UK|US weapons via an intermediary has been an ongoing handwashing pretence for many decades. eg: Very British bribery: the whistleblower who exposed the UK’s dodgy arms deals with Saudi Arabia ~ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/07/long-read-british-bribery-britain-arms-deals-saudi-arabia-ian-foxley https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/07/long-read-brit... discusses some of that history back to the 1970s. It has gone on far longer than that. Both the US and UK governments are aware of where their weapons are destined for, both pretend to have no knowledge or control.
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  - victorbjorklund 11mo ago
    That is like saying Russia is suppling Ukraine with weapons to kill Russians because Russia has exported weapons to X that then made it to Ukraine. That is just silly claiming Russia is a supplier of arms to Ukraine.
    - defrost 11mo ago
      It's more like stating that Margaret Thatcher knew what her son was up to and could have stopped him had she wanted to. It's exactly embracing the notion that five eyes track the volumes of their arms sales and are indiffeent to their arms being used to kill children, civilians, etc. as long as they're not being stockpiled for use against the originating nation in any significant volume. I'd suggest that Russia is less adept here than the US or the UK if they're being harmed by thir own supply.
      - victorbjorklund 11mo ago
        No, it is not. It is the exact same situation. Do YOU think it make sense to put a headline claiming Russia is supplying weapons to Ukraine? Is that an accurate description of reality?

by dabber 11mo ago

victorbjorklund 11mo ago

says it was not supplied by US/UK but rather UAE.

defrost 11mo ago
UK|US weapons via an intermediary has been an ongoing handwashing pretence for many decades. eg: Very British bribery: the whistleblower who exposed the UK’s dodgy arms deals with Saudi Arabia ~ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/07/long-read-british-bribery-britain-arms-deals-saudi-arabia-ian-foxley https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/07/long-read-brit... discusses some of that history back to the 1970s. It has gone on far longer than that. Both the US and UK governments are aware of where their weapons are destined for, both pretend to have no knowledge or control.
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- victorbjorklund 11mo ago
  That is like saying Russia is suppling Ukraine with weapons to kill Russians because Russia has exported weapons to X that then made it to Ukraine. That is just silly claiming Russia is a supplier of arms to Ukraine.
  - defrost 11mo ago
    It's more like stating that Margaret Thatcher knew what her son was up to and could have stopped him had she wanted to. It's exactly embracing the notion that five eyes track the volumes of their arms sales and are indiffeent to their arms being used to kill children, civilians, etc. as long as they're not being stockpiled for use against the originating nation in any significant volume. I'd suggest that Russia is less adept here than the US or the UK if they're being harmed by thir own supply.
    - victorbjorklund 11mo ago
      No, it is not. It is the exact same situation. Do YOU think it make sense to put a headline claiming Russia is supplying weapons to Ukraine? Is that an accurate description of reality?