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You forgot US and UK.

by hulitu 1y ago

JumpCrisscross 1y ago
I didn’t know British weapons made it to the RSF. Wow. Have American weapons been used in the war?
- kjs3 1y ago
  It would be very strange if American weapons weren't used in a conflict this big, which is a very different question from "did the US government sell weapons into this war".
  - anonzzzies 1y ago
    Guess you are on the wrong side of things if you know your weapons are getting laundered through other countries to get to a conflict. And of course uk, us and china know this and always knew this.
  - Yokolos 1y ago
    I've looked for articles and don't see anything about US weapons. It would be very strange, indeed, but supposition isn't proof and I can't find anything suggesting the US is involved in anyway. Colour me surprised, tbh.
    - kjs3 1y ago
      I wasn't here to 'provide proof'. Just pointing out that any conflict beyond a certain size almost certainly has some weapon from every large arms producer deployed in the field. I can't image how many tons of small arms we left laying around in Iraq, Afghanistan and the rest that are now being recirculated around the worlds conflict zones. I remember after the Soviets pulled out of Afghanistan if you were in the right place and knew the right people you could get cases of NIB AKs for like $25 a rifle (no, I didn't). It's not politics...it's logistics.
pdabbadabba 1y ago
Got evidence that they supplied weapons? GP’s Wikipedia article does not seem to say that they did (apart from an unclear reference to US military aid, which I don’t think refers to US military aid to Sudan specifically).
- dabber 1y ago
  https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/oct/28/uk-military-equipment-rapid-support-forces-rsf-militia-accused-genocide-found-sudan-united-nations https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/oct/28/u...
  - victorbjorklund 1y ago
    says it was not supplied by US/UK but rather UAE.
    - defrost 1y ago
      UK|US weapons via an intermediary has been an ongoing handwashing pretence for many decades. eg: Very British bribery: the whistleblower who exposed the UK’s dodgy arms deals with Saudi Arabia ~ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/07/long-read-british-bribery-britain-arms-deals-saudi-arabia-ian-foxley https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/07/long-read-brit... discusses some of that history back to the 1970s. It has gone on far longer than that. Both the US and UK governments are aware of where their weapons are destined for, both pretend to have no knowledge or control.
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      - victorbjorklund 1y ago
        That is like saying Russia is suppling Ukraine with weapons to kill Russians because Russia has exported weapons to X that then made it to Ukraine. That is just silly claiming Russia is a supplier of arms to Ukraine.

You forgot US and UK.

by hulitu 1y ago

You forgot US and UK.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago

I didn’t know British weapons made it to the RSF. Wow. Have American weapons been used in the war?

kjs3 1y ago
It would be very strange if American weapons weren't used in a conflict this big, which is a very different question from "did the US government sell weapons into this war".
- anonzzzies 1y ago
  Guess you are on the wrong side of things if you know your weapons are getting laundered through other countries to get to a conflict. And of course uk, us and china know this and always knew this.
- Yokolos 1y ago
  I've looked for articles and don't see anything about US weapons. It would be very strange, indeed, but supposition isn't proof and I can't find anything suggesting the US is involved in anyway. Colour me surprised, tbh.
  - kjs3 1y ago
    I wasn't here to 'provide proof'. Just pointing out that any conflict beyond a certain size almost certainly has some weapon from every large arms producer deployed in the field. I can't image how many tons of small arms we left laying around in Iraq, Afghanistan and the rest that are now being recirculated around the worlds conflict zones. I remember after the Soviets pulled out of Afghanistan if you were in the right place and knew the right people you could get cases of NIB AKs for like $25 a rifle (no, I didn't). It's not politics...it's logistics.

pdabbadabba 1y ago

Got evidence that they supplied weapons? GP’s Wikipedia article does not seem to say that they did (apart from an unclear reference to US military aid, which I don’t think refers to US military aid to Sudan specifically).

dabber 1y ago
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/oct/28/uk-military-equipment-rapid-support-forces-rsf-militia-accused-genocide-found-sudan-united-nations https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/oct/28/u...
- victorbjorklund 1y ago
  says it was not supplied by US/UK but rather UAE.
  - defrost 1y ago
    UK|US weapons via an intermediary has been an ongoing handwashing pretence for many decades. eg: Very British bribery: the whistleblower who exposed the UK’s dodgy arms deals with Saudi Arabia ~ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/07/long-read-british-bribery-britain-arms-deals-saudi-arabia-ian-foxley https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/07/long-read-brit... discusses some of that history back to the 1970s. It has gone on far longer than that. Both the US and UK governments are aware of where their weapons are destined for, both pretend to have no knowledge or control.
    - deleted 1y ago
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    - victorbjorklund 1y ago
      That is like saying Russia is suppling Ukraine with weapons to kill Russians because Russia has exported weapons to X that then made it to Ukraine. That is just silly claiming Russia is a supplier of arms to Ukraine.