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> to create a comprehensive dataset that includes biometric data and can be used however the government wishes Not forgetting Elon's mass data scraping from ea
by lysp 11mo ago
> to create a comprehensive dataset that includes biometric data and can be used however the government wishes
Not forgetting Elon's mass data scraping from earlier this year.
- leobg 11mo agoAre you talking about DOGE? That data already existed in government databases. There was also no scraping involved.
- orwin 11mo agoI think "Scrapping" semantic meaning is slowly switching to "illegally collecting", and for those who mean that, your comment is perceived as pedantic (basically me when people talk about "crypto" and i am still responding "cryptocurrency you mean?")
- hrimfaxi 11mo agoWhy would scraping have an unlawful connotation? I thought US courts have ruled scraping to be allowed.
- verdverm 11mo ago"scraping" is being used in two ways 1. Scraping a website, by anyone, allowed by courts if it is publicly accessible 2. "Scraping" of data, by the government, from various sources into a centralized database in partnership with Palantir. It's a worse version of the "Patriot" Act
- zzrrt 11mo agoFYI, you wrote “scrapping”, but the word under discussion only has one P.
- daveguy 11mo agoIt was exfiltration -- copying or moving data from an internal system to an external system. They insisted on and bragged about full access because now it would be "efficient". But it was clearly just simple opportunity for theft by a bunch of shady assholes. They also touted the ability to link data across multiple department to mine data on US citizens. The libertarian, "don't make databases of us" folks sat around with their thumbs up their asses because reasons. See also the Krebs link. Why are you defending this crap? They also destroyed the departments that were actually making digital services more streamlined and easier to use 18F by dissolution and US Digital Services by capture. doge was a fucking disaster.
- walletdrainer 11mo agoAre there any details available on whether or not anything actually happened there?
- griffzhowl 11mo agoYes, good grounds for concluding that there was a large exfiltration of govt data by the doge team https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/04/doge-workers-code-supports-nlrb-whistleblower/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/04/doge-workers-code-suppor...
- mcmcmc 11mo agoNot just doge, there were pretty clear indicators they left the door open for Russia to grab all they could as well.
- griffzhowl 11mo agoThe same whistleblower mentioned newly-created doge credentials being used to attempt login to the NLRB system from an IP address in Primorskiy Krai, the province around Vladivostock in Russias far east. They were blocked because the system doesn't allow non-US access even with proper credentials. There are many possible explanation for that since it's just an IP address. This is some more detail about the whisteblower's testimony from an earlier Krebs article: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/04/whistleblower-doge-siphoned-nlrb-case-data/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/04/whistleblower-doge-sipho... Was there anything else about Russia?