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HN Headline is categorically false. "you cannot use our services for: provision of tailored advice that requires a license, such as legal or medical advice, wi
by geor9e 1y ago
HN Headline is categorically false.
"you cannot use our services for: provision of tailored advice that requires a license, such as legal or medical advice, without appropriate involvement by a licensed professional"
So, they didn't add any handrails, filters, or blocks to the software. This is just boilerplate "consult your doctor too!" to cover their ass.
- unyttigfjelltol 1y agoDoesn’t prohibit brainstorming what to ask your doctor, or which professional consultation to prioritize. Does prohibit, for illustration, LLM-powered surgical device. Everything else is “gray area”?
- geor9e 1y agoProhibits in the "I'm a sign, not a cop" sense. There is no way for them to even remotely verify if you are "without appropriate involvement by a licensed professional" in the room, so to a rebellious outlaw, these prohibitions might as well not exist.
- SoftTalker 1y ago> brainstorming what to ask your doctor Generally a bad idea. If you want to be a doctor, go to medical school.
- ralph84 1y agoI don’t want to be a doctor, I just want to fix what ails me. You don’t need an MD to research symptoms.
- OutOfHere 1y agoGPT saved me yesterday. It helped me identify and verify a rare three-way undocumented medicine interaction that was causing anguish. The interaction was hypomagnesia and serious arrhythmia caused by a combination of berberine, famotidine, and vonoprazan. This was despite magnesium supplementation. Two months ago it helped me accurately identify a gastrointestinal diverticulitis-type issue, find the right medication for it (metronidazole), which fixed the issue for good. It also guided me on identifying the cause, and also on pausing and restoring fiber intake appropriately. Granted, it is very easy for people to make serious mistakes in using LLMs, but granted how many mistakes doctors make, it is better to take some self-responsibility first. The road to making a useful diagnosis can be windy, but with sufficient exploration, GPT will get you there.
- OutOfHere 1y agoThe bad idea is to live and die in ignorance. The good idea is to use GPT to find ideas and references that one can then verify. If it were up to the medical establishment, they would block the public from accessing medical research altogether, and they already do this by paywalling much research.
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- CGamesPlay 1y agoDid the headline get changed? It 100% matches what you're calling out: "OpenAI updates terms to forbid usage..."
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- dangus 1y agoWhile you are correct, the question now becomes whether the disclaimer can ever be removed. If the AI isn’t smart enough to replace a licensed expert even given unlimited access to everything a doctor would learn in medical, where is the value in the AI?
- dragonwriter 1y agoPlenty of other automation supports licensed experts without replacing them and has value, so if even AI supports licensed efforts but can never replace them, it could still have value in that application.
- dangus 1y agoBut this isn’t what was advertised by the AI companies themselves. They’ve been telling us AGI is imminent. Now we are moving the goalposts to “it’ll be a nice tool to use like SaaS software.”
- dragonwriter 1y ago> But this isn’t what was advertised by the AI companies themselves. They’ve been telling us AGI is imminent. Other than OpenAI, I don’t think that’s actually true of what the companies have been advertising. But, in any case, things can have value and still fall short of what those with a financial interest in the public overestimating the imminent significance of an industry promote. The claim here was about what was necessary for AI to have value, not what was necessary to meet the picture that the most enthusiastic, biased proponents were painting. Those are very different questions, and, if you don’t like moving goalposts, you shouldn’t move them from the former to the latter.
- dangus 11mo agoWhen I originally said “where’s the value in the AI?” in my first comment the implied situation relates to how vastly more expensive it is than traditional SaaS to deliver. AI is undoubtedly useful, but at its current infrastructure cost it’s not going to be worth selling unless it can actually put people out of work so that enterprise customers are motivated to spend salary-level money on it. That’s the only way to make the numbers black with the kind of deficits the industry has. Making existing employees 5-20% more productive isn’t enough. You can already get that kind of improvement for very cheap. That’s the kind of improvement you get by buying your employees catered lunch or a SaaS license for a CRUD app. My company is paying less money for AI subscriptions per seat than some pretty low impact tools like password managers. You’d think that CoPilot might charge us $100 instead of $10 if they really thought it was that valuable. There’s no goalpost being moved on my end.
- OutOfHere 1y agoOpenAI already blocked public access to custom GPTs that gave medical advice. I had multiple such custom GPTs get blocked from their previously functional shared access.