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I think it’s important to focus on the momentum. It’s not easy to redesign and re-engineer systems that have taken years and decades to develop and span many la

by isodev 1y ago

I think it’s important to focus on the momentum. It’s not easy to redesign and re-engineer systems that have taken years and decades to develop and span many layers of integrations. There is also the issue of retraining as everyone is happily used to whatever system they currently have. It’s unfortunate the US decided to go back in time rather than look to the future but eventually, very few (if any) services would rely on US corps.

DaSHacka 1y ago
> It’s unfortunate the US decided to go back in time rather than look to the future but eventually, very few (if any) services would rely on US corps. I was unaware the country travelled back in time! Surely you have a specific example of a way in which U.S. based technology companies have significantly and irrefutively regressed to demonstrate your point, since you appear to talk as though it's a foretold conclusion this delusion will come to pass. Has the same energy as the people shouting "the death of Silicon Valley is neigh!!!" whenever a random washed-up company mkves their HQ from the Bay area to some tax haven state (and half the time retains their offices and personnel in SV anyway)
graemep 1y ago
I think the momentum is to greater reliance on the US, not lesser: Cashless payments around the world, mostly dominated by American companies. A general move to doing everything on mobile apps. This includes many governments pushing mobile apps for ID, age verification, etc. Cloud versions of MS Office replacing desktop versions is FAR more common than people moving to other office software. Even the EU's regulation supposed to provide cloud sovereignty seem to have been designed to favour the bit American suppliers: https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/27/cispe_eu_sovereignty_framework/ https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/27/cispe_eu_sovereignty_... At the same time American companies are increasing their control over their established base. MS accounts needed to log in to Windows. Google eliminating other app stores. The move from desktop to phones for most users. Most businesses are still moving to a range of American dominated cloud things. Not just hyperscalers, but SaaS is also American dominated. The very fact that moving just 1,200 people to NextCloud is such big news underlines just how small the movement the other way is. This is despite continued reliance on Outlook and Teams! The only way I see the grip of the US loosening a little bit is if continued outages persuade people they cannot rely on the hyperscalers to such extent there is a more back to on-prem and smaller suppliers, however the US has unshakeable and increasing control of end-point device.

by isodev 1y ago

DaSHacka 1y ago

> It’s unfortunate the US decided to go back in time rather than look to the future but eventually, very few (if any) services would rely on US corps. I was unaware the country travelled back in time! Surely you have a specific example of a way in which U.S. based technology companies have significantly and irrefutively regressed to demonstrate your point, since you appear to talk as though it's a foretold conclusion this delusion will come to pass. Has the same energy as the people shouting "the death of Silicon Valley is neigh!!!" whenever a random washed-up company mkves their HQ from the Bay area to some tax haven state (and half the time retains their offices and personnel in SV anyway)

graemep 1y ago

I think the momentum is to greater reliance on the US, not lesser: Cashless payments around the world, mostly dominated by American companies. A general move to doing everything on mobile apps. This includes many governments pushing mobile apps for ID, age verification, etc. Cloud versions of MS Office replacing desktop versions is FAR more common than people moving to other office software. Even the EU's regulation supposed to provide cloud sovereignty seem to have been designed to favour the bit American suppliers: https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/27/cispe_eu_sovereignty_framework/ https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/27/cispe_eu_sovereignty_... At the same time American companies are increasing their control over their established base. MS accounts needed to log in to Windows. Google eliminating other app stores. The move from desktop to phones for most users. Most businesses are still moving to a range of American dominated cloud things. Not just hyperscalers, but SaaS is also American dominated. The very fact that moving just 1,200 people to NextCloud is such big news underlines just how small the movement the other way is. This is despite continued reliance on Outlook and Teams! The only way I see the grip of the US loosening a little bit is if continued outages persuade people they cannot rely on the hyperscalers to such extent there is a more back to on-prem and smaller suppliers, however the US has unshakeable and increasing control of end-point device.