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Both those things are like the root account to one's data. If there is a hypervisor backdoor (or if your vendor is told by the government to stop giving you upd

Both those things are like the root account to one's data. If there is a hypervisor backdoor (or if your vendor is told by the government to stop giving you updates or sell you product, or even pull your keys) then its game over. DB's too because they're so mission critical and not trivial to move off. As far as cloud goes, how many shops are now looking at bringing stuff back in because eventually cloud maximizes its profit margins and captured clients can't say no to ever increasing prices. I imagine leaving the US-owned cloud also means an opportunity to reconfigure what is on the cloud and if it needs to be there. Here's hope desktop linux comes back into play. As for Munich moving back to windows, who knows how much of that was 'checkbook diplomacy' of the USA demanding they go back to US products or the US will pull unrelated support or whatever. Now that the USA has become isolationist, if not a threat to the EU, those favors/checks aren't being cashed anymore. So much of this is not a meritocracy but instead the crony capitalism that defines the modern world. Maybe there's potential for actual merit now that the USA is losing global prominence in so many ways. The EU liberated from US influence can lead to great things and this is a good start. For all the doom and gloom of politics today, the US's century of influence ending can only be a universally good thing, imho.

Herring 1y ago
I’m the last person you can call a fan of US foreign policy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_the_U... But for global stability it’s best if there was some kind of entity with a legitimate monopoly on force. It’s like I don’t want to live in a town where everyone has guns, I’d like a police force with accountability.
- zoeysmithe 1y ago
  The war on terror has killed millions of civilians, mostly women and children. Brown University lists excess deaths from the WoT at 4 or 5m. The USA has destabilized many countries and performed coups. It invades and goes to war for its own geopolitical gains and regularly lies why. What you're praising is a horror. Being defenseless hoping an angry 800lbs gorilla will be kind to you must be the worst system imaginable. A balance of power both economic and arms is going to be the best way forward because now that gorilla knows it can't just do what it wants anymore.
  - Herring 1y ago
    I'm not praising anything. Yes US foreign policy sucks. I'm pointing out historically a balance of power has been even worse. There are too many possible points of failure. Discuss with your favorite frontier LLM. Ideally idk I'd like a much stronger UN or something, with federal power over member states.
    - lazide 1y ago
      Who would run such a UN? And why wouldn’t they be worse - and what would you be able to do about it, if they were? And don’t forget, regardless of the title, for anything to get done there inevitably is one man who is making decisions/breaking ties somewhere. I can’t think of anyone that the various factions could actually trust to do that without screwing over at least (or more!) half of them.
      - Herring 1y ago
        Who runs your local police force? What do you do if they suck? It's really not that hard to implement a good setup, but yeah the hard part is convincing multiple countries to give up a bit of sovereignty. Might take another world war.
        lazide 1y ago
        If my local police force sucks, they impact me and the other local voters, so they tend to be somewhat easy to fix (as long as we can all agree they suck). Or at least I only have my fellow local idiots to blame. What happens when the person who chose them is in Beijing, and everyone in my entire country doesn’t want them there? But they still got a global majority? Typically that’s the kind of thing a lot of people die over.
        Herring 1y ago
        Yeah multiply this situation x1M and you understand why a balance of power is unstable. To make a civilized society work, people can't pull out guns when they disagree. You sue, or you figure out how to communicate/negotiate, or you just live with it. Any of those are better than war, and a good setup will have plenty of avenues like that.
- 15155 1y ago
  > It’s like I don’t want to live in a town where everyone has guns, I’d like a police force with accountability Accountability doesn't equal magic: when seconds count, the police are minutes (realistically: hours, in many places) away.
- kergonath 1y ago
  Personally, I like a forum for sorting things out peacefully without relying on the goodwill of the bully du jour. Your argument is not new and is exactly why enlightened absolute monarchs were fashionable at some point. It sounds good, but the problem is that this works as long as the monarch is good. When they aren’t, or aren’t any more, or their heir aren’t, then it’s horrible. Democracy is an exercise in optimising for the middle ground: sure, it’s not going to be as efficient as a competent autocracy, but it limits the worst case scenarios.
tjpnz 1y ago
>Now that the USA has become isolationist, if not a threat to the EU, those favors/checks aren't being cashed anymore. Trump could threaten tariffs.
- zoeysmithe 1y ago
  Trumpism is all about maximizing tariff gain/benefit. Economically and politically he may not have room to do more without crippling the USA. The EU is already dealing with tough tariffs from the USA. Most of the "500% tariffs" is bluster and he backs down to the min/max level the capital owning class he is part of and he ultimately serves don't want to go past.
sipofwater 1y ago
"The world without hegemony" "As Pax Americana ends, a multipolar order is emerging. The history of Southeast Asia holds lessons for what’s to come": https://aeon.co/essays/what-southeast-asian-history-tells-us-about-a-multipolar-order https://aeon.co/essays/what-southeast-asian-history-tells-us... (aeon.co/essays/what-southeast-asian-history-tells-us-about-a-multipolar-order) via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45771497 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45771497 ; https://archive.ph/wBrLt https://archive.ph/wBrLt
sipofwater 1y ago
* "The Histomap. Four Thousand Years Of World History. Relative Power Of Contemporary States, Nations And Empires." by John B. Sparks: https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~200375~3001080:The-Histomap--Four-Thousand-Years-O https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~2... (www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~200375~3001080:The-Histomap--Four-Thousand-Years-O), https://web.archive.org/web/20130813230833if_/alanbernstein.net/images/large/histomap.jpg https://web.archive.org/web/20130813230833if_/alanbernstein.... (4194 x 19108 pixels, web.archive.org/web/20130813230833if_/alanbernstein.net/images/large/histomap.jpg) via https://web.archive.org/web/20130813230833/alanbernstein.net/images/large/histomap.jpg https://web.archive.org/web/20130813230833/alanbernstein.net... (web.archive.org/web/20130813230833/alanbernstein.net/images/large/histomap.jpg); https://archive.ph/1wEk8/332f1c70b1ffd9854847dbfa7ad77b4915cbd50a.jpg https://archive.ph/1wEk8/332f1c70b1ffd9854847dbfa7ad77b4915c... (4194 x 19108 pixels, archive.ph/1wEk8/332f1c70b1ffd9854847dbfa7ad77b4915cbd50a.jpg) via https://archive.ph/1wEk8 https://archive.ph/1wEk8 * "(Covers to) The Histomap. Four Thousand Years Of World History. Relative Power Of Contemporary States, Nations And Empires.": https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~200374~3000299:-Covers-to--The-Histomap--Four-Thou https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~2... (www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~200374~3000299:-Covers-to--The-Histomap--Four-Thou)

Herring 1y ago

I’m the last person you can call a fan of US foreign policy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_interventions_by_the_U... But for global stability it’s best if there was some kind of entity with a legitimate monopoly on force. It’s like I don’t want to live in a town where everyone has guns, I’d like a police force with accountability.

zoeysmithe 1y ago
The war on terror has killed millions of civilians, mostly women and children. Brown University lists excess deaths from the WoT at 4 or 5m. The USA has destabilized many countries and performed coups. It invades and goes to war for its own geopolitical gains and regularly lies why. What you're praising is a horror. Being defenseless hoping an angry 800lbs gorilla will be kind to you must be the worst system imaginable. A balance of power both economic and arms is going to be the best way forward because now that gorilla knows it can't just do what it wants anymore.
- Herring 1y ago
  I'm not praising anything. Yes US foreign policy sucks. I'm pointing out historically a balance of power has been even worse. There are too many possible points of failure. Discuss with your favorite frontier LLM. Ideally idk I'd like a much stronger UN or something, with federal power over member states.
  - lazide 1y ago
    Who would run such a UN? And why wouldn’t they be worse - and what would you be able to do about it, if they were? And don’t forget, regardless of the title, for anything to get done there inevitably is one man who is making decisions/breaking ties somewhere. I can’t think of anyone that the various factions could actually trust to do that without screwing over at least (or more!) half of them.
    - Herring 1y ago
      Who runs your local police force? What do you do if they suck? It's really not that hard to implement a good setup, but yeah the hard part is convincing multiple countries to give up a bit of sovereignty. Might take another world war.
      - lazide 1y ago
        If my local police force sucks, they impact me and the other local voters, so they tend to be somewhat easy to fix (as long as we can all agree they suck). Or at least I only have my fellow local idiots to blame. What happens when the person who chose them is in Beijing, and everyone in my entire country doesn’t want them there? But they still got a global majority? Typically that’s the kind of thing a lot of people die over.
        Herring 1y ago
        Yeah multiply this situation x1M and you understand why a balance of power is unstable. To make a civilized society work, people can't pull out guns when they disagree. You sue, or you figure out how to communicate/negotiate, or you just live with it. Any of those are better than war, and a good setup will have plenty of avenues like that.
15155 1y ago
> It’s like I don’t want to live in a town where everyone has guns, I’d like a police force with accountability Accountability doesn't equal magic: when seconds count, the police are minutes (realistically: hours, in many places) away.
kergonath 1y ago
Personally, I like a forum for sorting things out peacefully without relying on the goodwill of the bully du jour. Your argument is not new and is exactly why enlightened absolute monarchs were fashionable at some point. It sounds good, but the problem is that this works as long as the monarch is good. When they aren’t, or aren’t any more, or their heir aren’t, then it’s horrible. Democracy is an exercise in optimising for the middle ground: sure, it’s not going to be as efficient as a competent autocracy, but it limits the worst case scenarios.

tjpnz 1y ago

>Now that the USA has become isolationist, if not a threat to the EU, those favors/checks aren't being cashed anymore. Trump could threaten tariffs.

zoeysmithe 1y ago
Trumpism is all about maximizing tariff gain/benefit. Economically and politically he may not have room to do more without crippling the USA. The EU is already dealing with tough tariffs from the USA. Most of the "500% tariffs" is bluster and he backs down to the min/max level the capital owning class he is part of and he ultimately serves don't want to go past.

sipofwater 1y ago

"The world without hegemony" "As Pax Americana ends, a multipolar order is emerging. The history of Southeast Asia holds lessons for what’s to come": https://aeon.co/essays/what-southeast-asian-history-tells-us-about-a-multipolar-order https://aeon.co/essays/what-southeast-asian-history-tells-us... (aeon.co/essays/what-southeast-asian-history-tells-us-about-a-multipolar-order) via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45771497 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45771497 ; https://archive.ph/wBrLt https://archive.ph/wBrLt

sipofwater 1y ago

* "The Histomap. Four Thousand Years Of World History. Relative Power Of Contemporary States, Nations And Empires." by John B. Sparks: https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~200375~3001080:The-Histomap--Four-Thousand-Years-O https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~2... (www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~200375~3001080:The-Histomap--Four-Thousand-Years-O), https://web.archive.org/web/20130813230833if_/alanbernstein.net/images/large/histomap.jpg https://web.archive.org/web/20130813230833if_/alanbernstein.... (4194 x 19108 pixels, web.archive.org/web/20130813230833if_/alanbernstein.net/images/large/histomap.jpg) via https://web.archive.org/web/20130813230833/alanbernstein.net/images/large/histomap.jpg https://web.archive.org/web/20130813230833/alanbernstein.net... (web.archive.org/web/20130813230833/alanbernstein.net/images/large/histomap.jpg); https://archive.ph/1wEk8/332f1c70b1ffd9854847dbfa7ad77b4915cbd50a.jpg https://archive.ph/1wEk8/332f1c70b1ffd9854847dbfa7ad77b4915c... (4194 x 19108 pixels, archive.ph/1wEk8/332f1c70b1ffd9854847dbfa7ad77b4915cbd50a.jpg) via https://archive.ph/1wEk8 https://archive.ph/1wEk8 * "(Covers to) The Histomap. Four Thousand Years Of World History. Relative Power Of Contemporary States, Nations And Empires.": https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~200374~3000299:-Covers-to--The-Histomap--Four-Thou https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~2... (www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~200374~3000299:-Covers-to--The-Histomap--Four-Thou)