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Pricing model for a terminal. What a time to be alive. > Can I continue to use Warp as my primary terminal? > Yes, the Terminal features of Warp will continu
by gray_-_wolf 11mo ago
Pricing model for a terminal. What a time to be alive.
> Can I continue to use Warp as my primary terminal?
> Yes, the Terminal features of Warp will continue to be free to use for developers across Windows, Mac, and Linux.
Well this is something at least I guess.
- rapind 11mo agoWho cares when Ghostty exists though...
- john_alan 11mo agoyour spelled iTerm2 wrong :)
- fukka42 11mo agoHow do I run this on Windows and Linux?
- latexr 11mo agoGhostty aims to be cross-platform (I think Windows support isn’t there yet but is planned), but iTerm2 is macOS-only.
- Brajeshwar 11mo agoI was on iTerm2 for a pretty loong time. You should try out Ghostty.
- WesolyKubeczek 11mo agoYou meant "iTerm2 with no scrollbars and no scrollback history search" was spelled wrong. (yes I know they are working on it; but I also know iTerm2 and Konsole have had them since about forever, and I use that feature a lot, so it's kinda major impediment)
- Spivak 11mo agoHow are all of you spelling WezTerm wrong.
- slenk 11mo agoJust started using this - it's pretty nice. Very customizable but it makes my oh-my-zsh setup look like crap with it's fonts. I started using it since it's cross platform and I use chezmoi, but the config quickly gets complicated if you want things like folders in your tab titles, etc
- speedgoose 11mo agoiTerm2 is not in the same league when it comes to speed.
- speedgoose 11mo agoI’m on ghostty but warp is a lot more than a terminal. I used to consider their product to be a shitty AI powered terminal until I saw a demo of it. Now I consider it as a fair AI agent application that has a good CLI integration and some notebook features.
- Aurornis 11mo agoGhostty is an interesting project, but it’s not usable yet for those of us who use scrollback history search until they ship that feature https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/issues/189 https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/issues/189 The growing popularity of ghostty has made me realize a lot of people don’t use scroll back history search. I use it frequently to save time and avoid having to rerun time intensive tasks to pipe them through grep or tee everything to a file.
- jorl17 11mo agoThis exactly! Can't move from iterm2 until this feature, which is absolutely essential to me, is implemented. Love the work they're doing though!!
- xbar 11mo agoAre there any workarounds?
- antew 11mo agoIn my ghostty config I use: scrollback-limit = 512000000 keybind = super+f=write_scrollback_file:open It writes it to a temporary file and then opens the file in the default text editor when I hit Cmd+F.
- jasonjmcghee 11mo agotmux But there's a whole thread on other workarounds etc. Apparently it's on the roadmap. https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/issues/189 https://github.com/ghostty-org/ghostty/issues/189
- s_trumpet 11mo agoThe other thing keeping me on iTerm is Ghostty lacking tab support in quake mode
- tristan957 11mo agoI'm pretty certain that exists, at least on macOS, but I don't use that feature. I just follow development. Source: ghosty maintainer
- matwood 11mo agoI like Ghostty, but it's still missing a few features I need. Warp was interesting, but it was honestly overwhelming when I was simply reaching for a terminal. For now, I'm back on Terminal.app until Ghostty catches up feature wise.
- awb 11mo ago> Pricing model for a terminal. What a time to be alive. You’re really paying for AI compute, not the terminal.
- bigbuppo 11mo agoSubscriptions: AI makes it necessary.
- jzb 11mo ago"What a time to be alive" s/a/an awful/ Some days I feel like everything peaked around mid-2000.
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- dvt 11mo ago> Pricing model for a terminal. What a time to be alive. As soon as they raised like 50M+ (why you'd ever need 50 million dollars to build a terminal—which have been essentially "solved" since the 1970s—is a pretty good question), this was bound to happen. Same nonsense will happen to Zed, etc.
- awill 11mo agoOh no. Did I miss something? Did Zed get a bunch of unnecessary funding that will force them to do some subscription we'll all hate?
- zedsdeadbaby 11mo agohttps://zed.dev/blog/sequoia-backs-zed https://zed.dev/blog/sequoia-backs-zed
- whstl 11mo agoWell, they already have subscriptions for the agent usage, so the hope is that the editor will keep being free.
- mmh0000 11mo agoTo be fair, for those of us who live in a terminal, the terminal is/was not solved. Old terminals are slow and have a bunch of weird Unicode issues. Now, Warp is a terrible product, and I have nothing nice to say about them. But look at modern terminals like Kitty or Ghostty. There are so many very nice improvements. Like mouse support that works well (as opposed to "kind of works, but who needs a mouse?!, won't fix"), fast keyboard response (you'd think it wouldn't be noticeable, but it's very noticeable), copy-and-paste that makes sense and isn't different from everything else on the system, etc. https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/ https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/ https://ghostty.org/ https://ghostty.org/
- wonger_ 11mo agoAnd if you want to overhaul everything obsolete about the terminal and the shell, there's still more room for improvement: https://arcan-fe.com/2022/04/02/the-day-of-a-new-command-line-interface-shell/ https://arcan-fe.com/2022/04/02/the-day-of-a-new-command-lin...
- bakql 11mo agoIt's not "a terminal", it's a terminal with AI features that cost money to run. I understand you may not be interested in them, but let's not pretend that burning GPU power comes for free.
- bdcravens 11mo agoIf you pay for Claude Code, couldn't you then say you're paying for Visual Studio Code? Or if you use CC in the CLI, you're also paying for that terminal? Warp is just packaging AI with their terminal product.
- awb 11mo agoThe difference is the point of sale. With VS Code, you purchase your AI compute elsewhere (Anthropic, OpenAI, etc.), and then use it through the free VS Code interface. With Warp, you purchase your AI compute through Warp (who then pays Anthropic, Open AI, etc. based on the model you choose).
- bigbuppo 11mo agoAll up until the point that you get a "Dear Valued Customer" letter.
- pier25 11mo ago> Well this is something at least I guess. Until they change their TOS and use all your terminal input to train their models. I'm being sarcastic but how things are going something like this wouldn't surprise me at all.
- jbv027 11mo agoAlso terminal sending telemetry. So many no goes.