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Warp Terminal changes pricing model

39 points by leglock 11mo ago

ahuth 11mo ago
Unlike many comments here, I love Warp. Don’t use or pay for any AI features. But it’s really nice having a terminal with multi-cursor and keyboard shortcuts like an editor.
- Larrikin 11mo ago
  Yea all the AI features seem like a huge distraction to Warp. I hope they don't kill the terminal. Is there a terminal that offers this same experience,? All the comments here seem to be people crapping on it without trying it. it's really great for someone who develops but spends maybe only 5 percent of their time in the terminal for minor tasks
smokeydoe 11mo ago
Warp is so horribly broken right now and has been for weeks. Multiple github issues on what I experience is consistent issue writing file. On top of that UI glitches, and inability to use the great code indexing feature, file and diff Explorer while in WSL or any ssh connection. It unfortunate because I liked it a lot before, but after multiple weeks with the same breaking issues, it's practically unusable.
richwater 11mo ago
Pretty clear announcement. Unfortunate price increases but that's how it goes right now.
gray_-_wolf 11mo ago
Pricing model for a terminal. What a time to be alive. > Can I continue to use Warp as my primary terminal? > Yes, the Terminal features of Warp will continue to be free to use for developers across Windows, Mac, and Linux. Well this is something at least I guess.
- rapind 11mo ago
  Who cares when Ghostty exists though...
  - john_alan 11mo ago
    your spelled iTerm2 wrong :)
    - fukka42 11mo ago
      How do I run this on Windows and Linux?
      - latexr 11mo ago
        Ghostty aims to be cross-platform (I think Windows support isn’t there yet but is planned), but iTerm2 is macOS-only.
    - Brajeshwar 11mo ago
      I was on iTerm2 for a pretty loong time. You should try out Ghostty.
    - WesolyKubeczek 11mo ago
      You meant "iTerm2 with no scrollbars and no scrollback history search" was spelled wrong. (yes I know they are working on it; but I also know iTerm2 and Konsole have had them since about forever, and I use that feature a lot, so it's kinda major impediment)
    - Spivak 11mo ago
      How are all of you spelling WezTerm wrong.
      - slenk 11mo ago
        Just started using this - it's pretty nice. Very customizable but it makes my oh-my-zsh setup look like crap with it's fonts. I started using it since it's cross platform and I use chezmoi, but the config quickly gets complicated if you want things like folders in your tab titles, etc
Fizzadar 11mo ago
Hard to tell from their main website what warp is anymore - I thought it was a terminal, but now it's an AI code editor? Or is it just a terminal that looks extremely like a code editor? Gotta tap into that sweet unlimited pile of AI cash I guess.
pbiggar 11mo ago
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stupeo 11mo ago
Fair play to them for the way they communicated this. I like their style. However, I've been a Pro user for several months (use < 1000 credits a month) - but I've noticed a real reduction in quality over the past month or so. I'm now getting random failures, stopping of agents etc.
- wkat4242 11mo ago
  The same with copilot for office. It was much better before but it seems like they're really turning the screws on the compute. Especially the research agent is pretty useless now and it was really powerful. I guess these companies are running into issues not being able to expand capacity fast enough. Even a hyperscaler like Microsoft can't power a whole hype cycle. Or they're just squeezing to get more bottom line.
awb 11mo ago
Their old Pro plan at $15/mo (paid annually) had 2,500/mo AI requests per month, use it or lose it. The new Build plan at $20/mo has 1,500 AI requests, but they roll over. (Edit: apparently they don’t) > No bones about it: this plan will be more expensive for some users and less expensive for others. > We get that there’s a lot of whiplash in the AI devtools pricing market, and sympathize. While we expect some churn from this change, we are trying to do it in as minimally disruptive a way as possible. I’ve found Warp to be very useful, but you’re really paying for AI compute, not the terminal. And the AI compute space is getting very competitive.
- leglock 11mo ago
  From what I understand, in the new plan the 1,500 AI requests don't roll over. Only the add-on credits you buy on top of that will roll over and expire after 12 months.
  - awb 11mo ago
    > On the Build plan, you pay for what you use and credits roll over month to month. Here’s where I got it from, but I see how it’s ambiguous. “You pay for what you use” sounds a bit like the BYOK (bring your own key) “add-on credits” pricing model you’re referring to. But in the pricing table, they refer to monthly “AI credits”.
    - bananapub 11mo ago
      it's not ambiguous: > For the Build plan, credits will not rollover but Reload credits will rollover and be valid for 12 months from the date of purchase.
maxdo 11mo ago
from simple "slightly better terminal" to overloaded with questionable features. i have cursor, why do i need warp? especially since cursor can also run shell commands.
acedTrex 11mo ago
While I can not FATHOM using something like warp ever. I liked the writing, straight to the point, offered a conciliatory feature (BYOK).
- xbar 11mo ago
  I wish them success. I would like more of my vendors to operate their pricing this clearly.
throwaway106382 11mo ago
Paying for a terminal, lmao.
- bdcravens 11mo ago
  Terminal is free. AI integration isn't.
  - throwaway106382 11mo ago
    Yeah but why would anyone pay for that when you can just use Codex/ClaudeCode/Amp/etc... I don't even bother with iTerm's AI integration because why would I???
dmart 11mo ago
I’m not a huge fan of Warp, but I would love for any other terminal to copy its text editor-style input field. It’s so much nicer for 90% of my terminal usage (long multi-line commands, etc.) And when you do need TUI behavior that 10% of the time, just toggle it off.
- bitwize 11mo ago
  M-x shell :)
- pier25 11mo ago
  I loved that from Warp too. Went back to iTerm because Warp was regularly consuming more than 1GB of RAM. I also don't want anything related to AI reading my terminal commands.
  - alwillis 11mo ago
    iTerm2 users who want AI integrated in their terminal, including free/open weight models can do that [1]. [1]: https://iterm2.com/documentation-ai-chat.html https://iterm2.com/documentation-ai-chat.html
- pseudalopex 11mo ago
  The fish shell has multi line editing, completion explanations, and completion and history selection. Terminal integration could make these features even better. But Warp's account wall disqualified it for me.
  - dmart 11mo ago
    Thanks for the recommendation! I'd heard of fish but didn't realize that was a feature. It seems quite nice.
- seanhunter 11mo ago
  Why not just type “fc” and edit your multiline command in a real editor? (Like you’ve been able to do since at least the 1980s). I know I’m going to come across as a bitter old geezer, but with a lot of things like this the “features” seem to be pale imitations of things which already exist and the real root problem is people just don’t invest the time to learn the tools they already have.
imagetic 11mo ago
I really loved Warp during its earlier stages. They added so many things I couldn’t keep up and I as just tired of updating it on launch every single day.
rutierut 11mo ago
I’ve been using Warp (for the AI features) for a while now, but less and less these days. They’re way too agile with the UI/UX, things change around too much for it to be what it is supposed to be.
bitwize 11mo ago
Juicero for bash. And the pricing model changes doubtless right on time for the VC money to run out. Yep, I can smell shite.
- seanhunter 11mo ago
  > Juicero for bash. This is exactly it.
bananapub 11mo ago
props for not fucking around in the title or first few paragraphs about the consequences, but man was it a bad idea to give people the idea you're a per-month-fee terminal.
daft_pink 11mo ago
Am I missing something? $20 per month for a terminal? Why wouldn’t you just use Ghostty and claude code?
- rlanday 11mo ago
  Claude Code also costs $20/month for the lowest paid tier.
  - daft_pink 11mo ago
    I’m no against paying a subscription. I just don’t quite understand the benefit of an ai terminal.
bdcravens 11mo ago
Like all products in the AI space today, it's a question of whether what it costs creates that much value each month. While it's not a force-multiplier in the same sense as Claude Code or Codex, I still think Warp is, even at $20, but that's probably pushing it (I've had months where I was able to speed run an unfamiliar workflow with Warp, and other months where I didn't use it for anything that iTerm couldn't handle)
- bigyabai 11mo ago
  For $20/month, I can buy a Claude Code subscription and have it drive my terminal on autopilot. Tool calling in traditional LLMs might just obsolete Warp's business model.
cetinsert 11mo ago
Just pay OpenAI, Anthropic, Google for your AI CLI tools and use ANY terminal → DONE. It is going to be way better than boutique integrations like Warp's, Cursor's, etc. anyway.
gkbrk 11mo ago
People really log in to their terminal emulator? And it's closed source and connected to the internet? My terminal emulator handles all sorts of confidential data, credentials, API keys etc. I can't even imagine the damage that can be caused by a rogue terminal emulator.
slenk 11mo ago
So my annual plan that renews in February - I am just going to whatever value is left if I want to switch to the build plan to bring my own key. Well shoot
alyxya 11mo ago
I tried warp last year and I wanted to like it but it just felt slower and more bloated. I don’t know if it’s improved since then, but I have a hard time seeing how the terminal is worth using. I’m ignoring price here and focused on value add. My main issue is that I don’t see more features as being more value, rather there are a lot of distractions and the learning curve to learn the various features doesn’t seem worth it. I also dislike vscode forks like cursor due to complexity, so maybe it’s meant more for certain kinds of users.
7e 11mo ago
Jesus, this company hasn’t died yet? Praying for magic AI fairy dust to save it, like everyone.
djfdat 11mo ago
I think everybody here that is bashing Warp specifically as a terminal application probably spends a lot more time in the terminal than GUI apps. For someone who don't, killer features: - GUI settings - Regular text navigation - Just enough free AI for ffmpegging - Pretty nice theming, gruvbox + 70% opacity is chef's kiss - Command blocks are a nice - Restore sessions are nice - Input area error underlines, syntax highlighting, command suggestions For someone who was never a big terminal user and now tries to use it occaisonally but still spends 95%+ time in GUI apps, this makes configuring, getting in, getting work done, and getting out super easy. When working on web projects, I'll usually run my apps in vscode for easier error logging & fixing workflows, and use warp for accessory things like installing packages.

39 points by leglock 11mo ago

ahuth 11mo ago

Unlike many comments here, I love Warp. Don’t use or pay for any AI features. But it’s really nice having a terminal with multi-cursor and keyboard shortcuts like an editor.

Larrikin 11mo ago
Yea all the AI features seem like a huge distraction to Warp. I hope they don't kill the terminal. Is there a terminal that offers this same experience,? All the comments here seem to be people crapping on it without trying it. it's really great for someone who develops but spends maybe only 5 percent of their time in the terminal for minor tasks

smokeydoe 11mo ago

Warp is so horribly broken right now and has been for weeks. Multiple github issues on what I experience is consistent issue writing file. On top of that UI glitches, and inability to use the great code indexing feature, file and diff Explorer while in WSL or any ssh connection. It unfortunate because I liked it a lot before, but after multiple weeks with the same breaking issues, it's practically unusable.

richwater 11mo ago

Pretty clear announcement. Unfortunate price increases but that's how it goes right now.

gray_-_wolf 11mo ago

Pricing model for a terminal. What a time to be alive. > Can I continue to use Warp as my primary terminal? > Yes, the Terminal features of Warp will continue to be free to use for developers across Windows, Mac, and Linux. Well this is something at least I guess.

rapind 11mo ago
Who cares when Ghostty exists though...
- john_alan 11mo ago
  your spelled iTerm2 wrong :)
  - fukka42 11mo ago
    How do I run this on Windows and Linux?
    - latexr 11mo ago
      Ghostty aims to be cross-platform (I think Windows support isn’t there yet but is planned), but iTerm2 is macOS-only.
  - Brajeshwar 11mo ago
    I was on iTerm2 for a pretty loong time. You should try out Ghostty.
  - WesolyKubeczek 11mo ago
    You meant "iTerm2 with no scrollbars and no scrollback history search" was spelled wrong. (yes I know they are working on it; but I also know iTerm2 and Konsole have had them since about forever, and I use that feature a lot, so it's kinda major impediment)
  - Spivak 11mo ago
    How are all of you spelling WezTerm wrong.
    - slenk 11mo ago
      Just started using this - it's pretty nice. Very customizable but it makes my oh-my-zsh setup look like crap with it's fonts. I started using it since it's cross platform and I use chezmoi, but the config quickly gets complicated if you want things like folders in your tab titles, etc

Fizzadar 11mo ago

Hard to tell from their main website what warp is anymore - I thought it was a terminal, but now it's an AI code editor? Or is it just a terminal that looks extremely like a code editor? Gotta tap into that sweet unlimited pile of AI cash I guess.

pbiggar 11mo ago

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stupeo 11mo ago

Fair play to them for the way they communicated this. I like their style. However, I've been a Pro user for several months (use < 1000 credits a month) - but I've noticed a real reduction in quality over the past month or so. I'm now getting random failures, stopping of agents etc.

wkat4242 11mo ago
The same with copilot for office. It was much better before but it seems like they're really turning the screws on the compute. Especially the research agent is pretty useless now and it was really powerful. I guess these companies are running into issues not being able to expand capacity fast enough. Even a hyperscaler like Microsoft can't power a whole hype cycle. Or they're just squeezing to get more bottom line.

awb 11mo ago

Their old Pro plan at $15/mo (paid annually) had 2,500/mo AI requests per month, use it or lose it. The new Build plan at $20/mo has 1,500 AI requests, but they roll over. (Edit: apparently they don’t) > No bones about it: this plan will be more expensive for some users and less expensive for others. > We get that there’s a lot of whiplash in the AI devtools pricing market, and sympathize. While we expect some churn from this change, we are trying to do it in as minimally disruptive a way as possible. I’ve found Warp to be very useful, but you’re really paying for AI compute, not the terminal. And the AI compute space is getting very competitive.

leglock 11mo ago
From what I understand, in the new plan the 1,500 AI requests don't roll over. Only the add-on credits you buy on top of that will roll over and expire after 12 months.
- awb 11mo ago
  > On the Build plan, you pay for what you use and credits roll over month to month. Here’s where I got it from, but I see how it’s ambiguous. “You pay for what you use” sounds a bit like the BYOK (bring your own key) “add-on credits” pricing model you’re referring to. But in the pricing table, they refer to monthly “AI credits”.
  - bananapub 11mo ago
    it's not ambiguous: > For the Build plan, credits will not rollover but Reload credits will rollover and be valid for 12 months from the date of purchase.

maxdo 11mo ago

from simple "slightly better terminal" to overloaded with questionable features. i have cursor, why do i need warp? especially since cursor can also run shell commands.

acedTrex 11mo ago

While I can not FATHOM using something like warp ever. I liked the writing, straight to the point, offered a conciliatory feature (BYOK).

xbar 11mo ago
I wish them success. I would like more of my vendors to operate their pricing this clearly.

throwaway106382 11mo ago

Paying for a terminal, lmao.

bdcravens 11mo ago
Terminal is free. AI integration isn't.
- throwaway106382 11mo ago
  Yeah but why would anyone pay for that when you can just use Codex/ClaudeCode/Amp/etc... I don't even bother with iTerm's AI integration because why would I???

dmart 11mo ago

I’m not a huge fan of Warp, but I would love for any other terminal to copy its text editor-style input field. It’s so much nicer for 90% of my terminal usage (long multi-line commands, etc.) And when you do need TUI behavior that 10% of the time, just toggle it off.

bitwize 11mo ago
M-x shell :)
pier25 11mo ago
I loved that from Warp too. Went back to iTerm because Warp was regularly consuming more than 1GB of RAM. I also don't want anything related to AI reading my terminal commands.
- alwillis 11mo ago
  iTerm2 users who want AI integrated in their terminal, including free/open weight models can do that [1]. [1]: https://iterm2.com/documentation-ai-chat.html https://iterm2.com/documentation-ai-chat.html
pseudalopex 11mo ago
The fish shell has multi line editing, completion explanations, and completion and history selection. Terminal integration could make these features even better. But Warp's account wall disqualified it for me.
- dmart 11mo ago
  Thanks for the recommendation! I'd heard of fish but didn't realize that was a feature. It seems quite nice.
seanhunter 11mo ago
Why not just type “fc” and edit your multiline command in a real editor? (Like you’ve been able to do since at least the 1980s). I know I’m going to come across as a bitter old geezer, but with a lot of things like this the “features” seem to be pale imitations of things which already exist and the real root problem is people just don’t invest the time to learn the tools they already have.

imagetic 11mo ago

I really loved Warp during its earlier stages. They added so many things I couldn’t keep up and I as just tired of updating it on launch every single day.

rutierut 11mo ago

I’ve been using Warp (for the AI features) for a while now, but less and less these days. They’re way too agile with the UI/UX, things change around too much for it to be what it is supposed to be.

bitwize 11mo ago

Juicero for bash. And the pricing model changes doubtless right on time for the VC money to run out. Yep, I can smell shite.

seanhunter 11mo ago
> Juicero for bash. This is exactly it.

bananapub 11mo ago

props for not fucking around in the title or first few paragraphs about the consequences, but man was it a bad idea to give people the idea you're a per-month-fee terminal.

daft_pink 11mo ago

Am I missing something? $20 per month for a terminal? Why wouldn’t you just use Ghostty and claude code?

rlanday 11mo ago
Claude Code also costs $20/month for the lowest paid tier.
- daft_pink 11mo ago
  I’m no against paying a subscription. I just don’t quite understand the benefit of an ai terminal.

bdcravens 11mo ago

Like all products in the AI space today, it's a question of whether what it costs creates that much value each month. While it's not a force-multiplier in the same sense as Claude Code or Codex, I still think Warp is, even at $20, but that's probably pushing it (I've had months where I was able to speed run an unfamiliar workflow with Warp, and other months where I didn't use it for anything that iTerm couldn't handle)

bigyabai 11mo ago
For $20/month, I can buy a Claude Code subscription and have it drive my terminal on autopilot. Tool calling in traditional LLMs might just obsolete Warp's business model.

cetinsert 11mo ago

Just pay OpenAI, Anthropic, Google for your AI CLI tools and use ANY terminal → DONE. It is going to be way better than boutique integrations like Warp's, Cursor's, etc. anyway.

gkbrk 11mo ago

People really log in to their terminal emulator? And it's closed source and connected to the internet? My terminal emulator handles all sorts of confidential data, credentials, API keys etc. I can't even imagine the damage that can be caused by a rogue terminal emulator.

slenk 11mo ago

So my annual plan that renews in February - I am just going to whatever value is left if I want to switch to the build plan to bring my own key. Well shoot

alyxya 11mo ago

I tried warp last year and I wanted to like it but it just felt slower and more bloated. I don’t know if it’s improved since then, but I have a hard time seeing how the terminal is worth using. I’m ignoring price here and focused on value add. My main issue is that I don’t see more features as being more value, rather there are a lot of distractions and the learning curve to learn the various features doesn’t seem worth it. I also dislike vscode forks like cursor due to complexity, so maybe it’s meant more for certain kinds of users.

7e 11mo ago

Jesus, this company hasn’t died yet? Praying for magic AI fairy dust to save it, like everyone.

djfdat 11mo ago

I think everybody here that is bashing Warp specifically as a terminal application probably spends a lot more time in the terminal than GUI apps. For someone who don't, killer features: - GUI settings - Regular text navigation - Just enough free AI for ffmpegging - Pretty nice theming, gruvbox + 70% opacity is chef's kiss - Command blocks are a nice - Restore sessions are nice - Input area error underlines, syntax highlighting, command suggestions For someone who was never a big terminal user and now tries to use it occaisonally but still spends 95%+ time in GUI apps, this makes configuring, getting in, getting work done, and getting out super easy. When working on web projects, I'll usually run my apps in vscode for easier error logging & fixing workflows, and use warp for accessory things like installing packages.