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Do you have even a slightest proof for your claim?

by izacus 1y ago

nonethewiser 1y ago
Proof for his claim that this is how it seems to him? Isn't the proof self evident - he said it seems that way. Obviously this doesn't immediately make it true but asking for "proof" mischaracterizes the nature of his statement.
twothreeone 1y ago
If you're trying to convince someone (other countries the US) the burden of proof is on you.
- izacus 1y ago
  Stop normalizing lies.
wagwang 1y ago
> Is food a human right https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/3951462?ln=en https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/3951462?ln=en > Amount of food sent https://www.gao.gov/international-food-assistance https://www.gao.gov/international-food-assistance
- sbohacek 1y ago
  This is an example of US not carrying "all the water." The second link shows that the EU+UK (countries + institutions) sent more food aid than the US. The UK has roughly 1/5 the population of the US and sent more than 1/5 as much as the US. Or, the UK has roughly 1/8 the GDP of the US and sent far more than 1/8 as much as the US. Also, the data is 2014-2018 when US food aid was managed by USAID. What is the US percentage now that USAID has been eliminated?
  - wagwang 1y ago
    The us share of world gdp was between 22-27% and it was contributing 36%. Secondly, this is only external aid, internally the US far outspend most countries with 100B towards SNAP. Most euro nations don't even have food stamp like programs.
    - acdha 1y ago
      So we’ve gone from “the U.S. carrying all of the water” to “the U.S. carrying 10 points more, in a way which heavily subsidized a key political group”? That seems like a pretty big shift in goalposts.
      - wagwang 1y ago
        OP asked for the slightest proof and I presented proof that the US is over contributing in food aid by 50% and now I'm goalpost shifting? lol... And just so we are clear, that meager 10 points that I'm goal post shifting for is probably life or death for millions.
        acdha 1y ago
        They asked for proof. You supplied evidence contradicting rather than proving the point. Now you’re trying to claim success by picking a statistical misrepresentation. Try to support the original claim if you want credit for meeting the original goal.

Do you have even a slightest proof for your claim?

by izacus 1y ago

Do you have even a slightest proof for your claim?

Proof for his claim that this is how it seems to him? Isn't the proof self evident - he said it seems that way. Obviously this doesn't immediately make it true but asking for "proof" mischaracterizes the nature of his statement.

twothreeone 1y ago

If you're trying to convince someone (other countries the US) the burden of proof is on you.

izacus 1y ago
Stop normalizing lies.

wagwang 1y ago

> Is food a human right https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/3951462?ln=en https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/3951462?ln=en > Amount of food sent https://www.gao.gov/international-food-assistance https://www.gao.gov/international-food-assistance

sbohacek 1y ago
This is an example of US not carrying "all the water." The second link shows that the EU+UK (countries + institutions) sent more food aid than the US. The UK has roughly 1/5 the population of the US and sent more than 1/5 as much as the US. Or, the UK has roughly 1/8 the GDP of the US and sent far more than 1/8 as much as the US. Also, the data is 2014-2018 when US food aid was managed by USAID. What is the US percentage now that USAID has been eliminated?
- wagwang 1y ago
  The us share of world gdp was between 22-27% and it was contributing 36%. Secondly, this is only external aid, internally the US far outspend most countries with 100B towards SNAP. Most euro nations don't even have food stamp like programs.
  - acdha 1y ago
    So we’ve gone from “the U.S. carrying all of the water” to “the U.S. carrying 10 points more, in a way which heavily subsidized a key political group”? That seems like a pretty big shift in goalposts.
    - wagwang 1y ago
      OP asked for the slightest proof and I presented proof that the US is over contributing in food aid by 50% and now I'm goalpost shifting? lol... And just so we are clear, that meager 10 points that I'm goal post shifting for is probably life or death for millions.
      - acdha 1y ago
        They asked for proof. You supplied evidence contradicting rather than proving the point. Now you’re trying to claim success by picking a statistical misrepresentation. Try to support the original claim if you want credit for meeting the original goal.