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Question for a future (2026?) dystopia: if our faces aren't secret or private for 4A/5A purposes, can we start making them secret/private by walking around in p
by sowbug 1y ago
Question for a future (2026?) dystopia: if our faces aren't secret or private for 4A/5A purposes, can we start making them secret/private by walking around in public with a balaclava?
New norms go both ways.
- Yeul 1y agoThe Netherlands has a law that makes it illegal to cover your face. Officially this is to help the police but its also a great tool against religion. Constitution>god
- cudgy 1y agoGod wants our faces covered?
- collingreen 1y agoSome religions say their God wants some people covered, like women.
- _DeadFred_ 1y agoWe now know why people had such weird makeup/facial modification attachments in dystopian sci-fi. Luckily we have libertarians, 1990s Republicans, and Hannity and Infowars fans that will fight vehemently to stop this sort of face scanning. It is all of theirs' nightmare scenarios way past all their red lines up there with Walmarts turned into relocation camps. But until they sort it out is it possible to make temporary tattoos (or just stickers) with patterns that make facial scanning unfeasible?
- RansomStark 1y agoIt used to be cv dazzle [0] is 15 years young. But its questionable if it works anymore. Theres also a bunch of of digital camo, most seem to target IR cameras [1] here's a homebrew version. [0] https://adam.harvey.studio/cvdazzle https://adam.harvey.studio/cvdazzle [1] https://www.macpierce.com/the-camera-shy-hoodie https://www.macpierce.com/the-camera-shy-hoodie
- Hizonner 1y ago> It used to be cv dazzle [0] is 15 years young. But its questionable if it works anymore. I fed all the CV Dazzle demo pictures into some free Amazon facial recognition demo a few years ago. It was a pretty shitty demo, but the makeup didn't even slow it down. It had no trouble at all finding the faces, assigning ages or genders, or locating facial features. And once you've located the features, you're going to have no trouble identifying the person if they're in the database.
- RansomStark 1y agoThat makes sense, the CV dazzle styles for designed for a specific algorithm that went out of use around a decade ago. There have been some updated styles for CNN based models, but never tried them, the originals did work back in the day
- RansomStark 1y agoTotally forgot this gem [0]. Done hide. Overwhelm. [0] https://adam.harvey.studio/hyperface/ https://adam.harvey.studio/hyperface/
- cool_man_bob 1y agoLibertarians and 90s republican are about as politically impotent as the democrats these days. The Hannity and Infowars fans will be written off as crazy when no longer useful.
- ozmodiar 1y agoI'm assuming the joke is that what remains of them seem to be entirely on board with this.
- tracker1 1y agoAgreed there are definitely a lot of Libertarians and Republicans that definitely object to random use of facial recognition as presented. As I mentioned in another comment, I'd like to see any clarifying statements from ICE/DoJ on this before jumping to conclusions as framing often cuts off portions of video or otherwise warps framing of events. Not to mention, I don't recall seeing any mention of a request for comment in the article.
- dragonwriter 1y agoThe people who like mass surveillance also like laws against public face covering.
- t0bia_s 1y agoWhat about using technology to scan and identify faces of those who oppress?
- sowbug 1y agoRelated and recent: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45734369 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45734369 (Not scanning faces, but continuously monitoring yourself to prove innocence. Depressing.)