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These rust based tools really change the idea of what's possible (when you can get feedback in milliseconds). But I'm trying to figure out what Astral as a comp

by atonse 1y ago

These rust based tools really change the idea of what's possible (when you can get feedback in milliseconds). But I'm trying to figure out what Astral as a company does for revenue. I don't see any paid products on their website. They even have investors. So far it seems like they have a bunch of these high performance tools. Is this part of an upcoming product suite for python or something? Just curious. I'm not a full-time python developer.

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tabletcorry 1y ago
Take a look at their upcoming product Pyx to see where revenue can start to come in for paid/hosted services. https://astral.sh/pyx https://astral.sh/pyx
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bruckie 1y ago
From "So how does Astral plan to make money? " (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44358216 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44358216): "What I want to do is build software that vertically integrates with our open source tools, and sell that software to companies that are already using Ruff, uv, etc. Alternatives to things that companies already pay for today. An example of what this might look like [...] would be something like an enterprise-focused private package registry." There's also this interview with Charlie Marsh (Astral founder): https://timclicks.dev/podcast/supercharging-python-tooling-an-interview-with-charlie-marsh https://timclicks.dev/podcast/supercharging-python-tooling-a... (specifically the "Building a commerical company with venture capital " section)
- throwway120385 1y ago
  That doesn't really seem like a way to avoid getting "Broadcommed." Vertically integrated tooling is kind of a commodity.
- LtWorf 1y ago
  It doesn't seem to answer to anything.
- ploxiln 1y ago
  hmm how well did that work for Docker ...
IshKebab 1y ago
Conda apparently makes a ton of money just by selling access to "more secure" packages, so maybe they'll do something like that. There are apparently 10 million Python developers in the world and pretty soon all of them will be using uv. I doubt it is that hard to monetise.
morshu9001 1y ago
It doesn't really matter that it's Rust. npm is written in JS.
- wpm 1y ago
  npm runs dog slow IME
  - ghthor 1y ago
    Yep, it’s next up for language package tooling that runs dog slow in CI and is consistently a pain in my side.

by atonse 1y ago

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tabletcorry 1y ago

Take a look at their upcoming product Pyx to see where revenue can start to come in for paid/hosted services. https://astral.sh/pyx https://astral.sh/pyx

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bruckie 1y ago

From "So how does Astral plan to make money? " (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44358216 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44358216): "What I want to do is build software that vertically integrates with our open source tools, and sell that software to companies that are already using Ruff, uv, etc. Alternatives to things that companies already pay for today. An example of what this might look like [...] would be something like an enterprise-focused private package registry." There's also this interview with Charlie Marsh (Astral founder): https://timclicks.dev/podcast/supercharging-python-tooling-an-interview-with-charlie-marsh https://timclicks.dev/podcast/supercharging-python-tooling-a... (specifically the "Building a commerical company with venture capital " section)

throwway120385 1y ago
That doesn't really seem like a way to avoid getting "Broadcommed." Vertically integrated tooling is kind of a commodity.
LtWorf 1y ago
It doesn't seem to answer to anything.
ploxiln 1y ago
hmm how well did that work for Docker ...

IshKebab 1y ago

Conda apparently makes a ton of money just by selling access to "more secure" packages, so maybe they'll do something like that. There are apparently 10 million Python developers in the world and pretty soon all of them will be using uv. I doubt it is that hard to monetise.

morshu9001 1y ago

It doesn't really matter that it's Rust. npm is written in JS.

wpm 1y ago
npm runs dog slow IME
- ghthor 1y ago
  Yep, it’s next up for language package tooling that runs dog slow in CI and is consistently a pain in my side.