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I noticed that Starbucks mobile ordering was down and thought “welp, I guess I’ll order a bagel and coffee on Grubhub”, then GrubHub was down. My next stop was
by Uehreka 1y ago
I noticed that Starbucks mobile ordering was down and thought “welp, I guess I’ll order a bagel and coffee on Grubhub”, then GrubHub was down. My next stop was HN to find the common denominator, and y’all did not disappoint.
- pants2 1y agoGood thing HN is hosted on a couple servers in a basement. Much more reliable than cloud, it seems!
- parliament32 1y agoAlways has been.
- lysace 1y agoIt was on AWS at least (for a while) in 2022. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32030400 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32030400
- jjice 1y agoYeah looks like they're back on M5. dang saying it's temporary: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32031136 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32031136 $ dig news.ycombinator.com ; <<>> DiG 9.10.6 <<>> news.ycombinator.com ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 54819 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;news.ycombinator.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: news.ycombinator.com. 1 IN A 209.216.230.207 ;; Query time: 79 msec ;; SERVER: 100.100.100.100#53(100.100.100.100) ;; WHEN: Wed Oct 29 13:59:29 EDT 2025 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 65 And that IP says it's with M5 again.
- dang 1y agoJust don't use genetically identical hardware: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32031639 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32031639 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32032235 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32032235 Edit: wow, I can't believe we hadn't put https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32031243 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32031243 in https://news.ycombinator.com/highlights https://news.ycombinator.com/highlights. Fixed now.
- airstrike 1y agoI love that "Ask HN: What'd you do while HN was down?" was a thing
- Cthulhu_ 1y agoMy plan B was going to the Stack Exchange homepage for some interesting threads but it got repetitive.
- gogusrl 1y agoI got burnt by this bug on freakin' Christmas Eve 2020 ( https://forum.hddguru.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=40766 https://forum.hddguru.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=40766 ). There was some data loss and a lot of lessons learned.
- hinkley 1y agoI’ve seen this up close twice and I’m surprised it’s only twice. Between March and September one year, 6 people on one team had to get new hard drives in their thinkpads and rebuild their systems. All from the same PO but doled out over the course of a project rampup. That was the first project where the onboarding docs were really really good, since we got a lot of practice in a short period of time. Long before that, the first raid array anyone set up for my (teams’) usage, arrived from Sun with 2 dead drives out of 10. They RMA’d us 2 more drives and one of those was also DOA. That was a couple years after Sun stopped burning in hardware for cost savings, which maybe wasn’t that much of a savings all things considered.
- praccu 1y agoMany years ago (13?), I was around when Amazon moved SABLE from RAM to SSDs. A whole rack came from a single batch, and something like 128 disks went out at once. I was an intern but everyone seemed very stressed.
- Cthulhu_ 1y agoMan I hit something like that once, a SSD had a firmware bug where it would stop working at an exact number of hours.
- hypeatei 1y agoStarbucks mobile was down during the AWS outage too...
- Hamuko 1y agoGonna build my application to be multicloud so that it requires multiple cloud platforms to be online at the same time. The RAID 0 of cloud computing.
- andoma 1y agoGo multi-cloud they said...
- SoftTalker 1y agoThey are multi-cloud --- vulnerable to all outages!
- mring33621 1y agoyou wouldn't believe some of the crap enterprise bigco mgmt put in place for disaster recovery. they think that they are 'eliminating a single point of failure', but in reality, they end up adding multiple, complicated points of mostly failure.
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- sergiotapia 1y agoWow I just left a Starbucks drivethru line because it was just not moving. I guess it was because of this.
- iso1631 1y agoYou'd think that Starbucks execs would be held accountable for the fragile system they have put in place. But they won't be.
- peanut-walrus 1y agoWhy? Starbucks is not providing a critical service. Spending less money and resources and just accepting the risk that occasionally you won't be able to sell coffee for a few hours is a completely valid decision from both management and engineering pov.
- bobro 1y agoOr maybe we should throw them in jail.
- bombcar 1y agoIt's absolutely batshit that an in-person transaction with cash becomes impossible when the computers are down. I've seen it multiple times at various stores; only once did I see them taking cash and writing things down (probably to enter into the system later when it came back up).
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- 01284a7e 1y agoHa, maybe rethink the I AM NOTHING BUT A HUGE CLOUD CONSUMER thing on some fundamental levels? Like food?
- Theodores 1y agoMy inner Nelson-from-the-Simpsons wishes I was on your team today, able to flaunt my flask of tea and homemade packed sandwiches. I would tease you by saying 'ha ha!' as your efforts to order coffee with IP packets failed. I always go everywhere adequately prepared for beverages and food. Thanks to your comment, I have a new reason to do so. Take out coffees are actually far from guaranteed. Payment systems could go down, my bank account could be hacked or maybe the coffee shop could be randomly closed. Heck, I might even have an accident crossing the road. Anything could happen. Hence, my humble flask might not have the top beverage in it but at least it works. We all design systems with redundancy, backups and whatnot, but few of us apply this thinking to our food and drink. Maybe get a kettle for the office and a backup kettle, in case the first one fails?
- port11 1y agoI noticed it when my Netatmo rigamajig stopped notifying me of bad indoor air quality. Lovely. Why does it need to go through the cloud if the data is right there in the home network…
- pasc1878 1y agoSame here for netatmo - ironically I replied to an incident report with netatmo saying all was OK when the whole system was falling over. However netatmo does need to have a server to store data as you need to consolidate acreoss devices plus you can query gfor a year's data and that won't and can't be held locally.
- port11 1y agoIt could be local-first. I don't mind the cross-device sync being done centrally, of course, but the app specifically asks for access to Home and Local Network. I wonder if Home Assistant could deal with blackouts…
- jeffrallen 1y agoYou know you can talk to your barista and ask for a bagel, right? If you're lucky they still take cash... if you still _have_ cash. :)
- 0_____0 1y agoI was at a McDs a couple months back and I'm pretty sure you had to use the kiosk to order. Some places are deprecating the cashier entirely.
- Havoc 1y agoThe sysadmin subreddit tends to beat hn on outage reports by an hour+ in my experience. Bunch of on-call peeps over there that definitely know the instant something major goes down
- garbagewoman 1y agoService culture is so hollow