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Companies need to seriously stop with this. I don't care if they make money by selling that ad space, I'm not going to fucking buy a fridge that advertises to

Companies need to seriously stop with this. I don't care if they make money by selling that ad space, I'm not going to fucking buy a fridge that advertises to me and needs the internet. It's a fridge for god's sake. Unless that fridge is given to me and installed in my home free of charge, and I get a monthly retainer for allowing the fridge to advertise to me. I'm not paying for the privileged of being advertised to.

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palmotea 1y ago
> Companies need to seriously stop with this. I don't care if they make money by selling that ad space, I'm not going to fucking buy a fridge that advertises to me and needs the internet. It's a fridge for god's sake. If there's enough money in doing this kind of thing, you may no longer be given that choice by the market. It is under no obligation to provide the choices that are best for you. All the manufacturers are responding to the same incentives, and if the CEO of one has the morals to resist shoving ads in all the things, it's only a matter of time until he's replaced by an MBA who doesn't. That's capitalism.
- dingnuts 1y ago
  then the market would be ripe for someone to market a dumb fridge for a premium and undercut the greedy competitors. THAT'S capitalism
  - palmotea 1y ago
    > then the market would be ripe for someone to market a dumb fridge for a premium and undercut the greedy competitors. THAT'S capitalism THAT'S fairy tale capitalism. Sometimes it works that way in real life, but it very, very frequently it does not. As soon as cost of adding a screen to a refrigerator becomes less than the ad revenue that screen can generate, you'll be hard pressed to find a refrigerator without one. They'll just be careful to avoid making it so annoying at first that it alienates customers, then do a frog-boiling exercise to slowly increase consumer tolerance for annoyance. That's where the incentives are, and the industry will follow the incentives.
  - g-b-r 1y ago
    Yes, just as it happened with TVs and cars
heathrow83829 1y ago
absolutely! and they're now even putting freakin apps into washing machines. It's a disaster. It's getting harder and harder to find appliances that don't have all this nonsense in it.

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palmotea 1y ago

> Companies need to seriously stop with this. I don't care if they make money by selling that ad space, I'm not going to fucking buy a fridge that advertises to me and needs the internet. It's a fridge for god's sake. If there's enough money in doing this kind of thing, you may no longer be given that choice by the market. It is under no obligation to provide the choices that are best for you. All the manufacturers are responding to the same incentives, and if the CEO of one has the morals to resist shoving ads in all the things, it's only a matter of time until he's replaced by an MBA who doesn't. That's capitalism.

dingnuts 1y ago
then the market would be ripe for someone to market a dumb fridge for a premium and undercut the greedy competitors. THAT'S capitalism
- palmotea 1y ago
  > then the market would be ripe for someone to market a dumb fridge for a premium and undercut the greedy competitors. THAT'S capitalism THAT'S fairy tale capitalism. Sometimes it works that way in real life, but it very, very frequently it does not. As soon as cost of adding a screen to a refrigerator becomes less than the ad revenue that screen can generate, you'll be hard pressed to find a refrigerator without one. They'll just be careful to avoid making it so annoying at first that it alienates customers, then do a frog-boiling exercise to slowly increase consumer tolerance for annoyance. That's where the incentives are, and the industry will follow the incentives.
- g-b-r 1y ago
  Yes, just as it happened with TVs and cars

heathrow83829 1y ago

absolutely! and they're now even putting freakin apps into washing machines. It's a disaster. It's getting harder and harder to find appliances that don't have all this nonsense in it.