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There's a $30,000 bounty set up for anyone who can patch the firmware to eliminate the ads. Please consider contributing additional donations against the matchi

There's a $30,000 bounty set up for anyone who can patch the firmware to eliminate the ads. Please consider contributing additional donations against the matching funds. https://bounties.fulu.org/bounties/samsung-familyhub-refrigerators https://bounties.fulu.org/bounties/samsung-familyhub-refrige...

wmeredith 1y ago
I lieu of a donation I'll continue to not pay for ad-laden garbage.
martinky24 1y ago
That website has never once paid out a bounty? hmm...
- simoncion 1y ago
  It looks to be a very new program. While the fulu.org domain has been around for a long time, archive.org's oldest snapshot of bounties.fulu.org is from late last week. This press release from Oct. 23rd agrees with archive.org's snapshot history: <https://fulu-foundation.ghost.io/repair-bounty-program/ https://fulu-foundation.ghost.io/repair-bounty-program/>. Given the complexity of the tasks on offer, I'm unsurprised that zero of them have been completed in three days. Give those boffins some time, yeah?
  - ehnto 1y ago
    I think the bounty aspect of it is incredibly new, the operator only released an announcement video a week or less ago.
commandersaki 1y ago
I recall Louis saying that some (or all?) solutions to these bounties cannot be revealed to the public due to being liable under DMCA circumvention measures. IANAL.
- scotty79 1y ago
  Doesn't it just affect US citizens?
  - keybored 1y ago
    IANAA.
  - _whiteCaps_ 1y ago
    Canada and Mexico too thanks to CUSMA.
    - AlexandrB 1y ago
      In light of the ongoing trade war, I think Canada should just tear up this agreement.
      - nerdsniper 1y ago
        I’d vote for that.
  - Refreeze5224 1y ago
    The US has successfully bullied many countries around the world to adopt their same insane IP laws, at the cost of cancelling trade agreements with those countries if they don't comply. So no, it affects many countries.
    - fulafel 1y ago
      In fact the first DeCSS trial was in Norway. Which started the whole internet wide civil disobedience campaign of mirroring it, putting it in haikus and t-shirts, etc.
- polski-g 1y ago
  Seems like they should release the fix on a Hong Kong server.
- 1y ago
embedding-shape 1y ago
> Include instructions for carrying out the functional method which are accessible and easily usable by a non-technical individual Good luck for anyone to claim this bounty if that's one of the requirements. Does the fridge have any exposed ports at all that the average person could access without removing anything from the fridge? It's also not clear in the bounty, if I add funds to the campaign and it gets fully funded, does that mean that software/hack will be released publicly? Or only to "backers"? It's not clear what the donation goes to, besides for the person who makes the hack to claim.
- gblargg 1y ago
  What's the use if a non-technical individual can't apply the fix?
  - embedding-shape 1y ago
    What's my donation gonna go to if the requirements are impossible to fulfill?
- nerdsniper 1y ago
  It helps to read into the personality and psychology of Louis Rossmann a bit, who is running this. He does component-level repairs of MacBooks, and entirely understands that custom firmware will likely require JTAG to flash the MCU. FULU / Rossmann isn't handling the public release ... at all. They're worried that doing so would violate US law or at least cost a lot in court fees. They'd be super stoked if whoever made it released to to the public and absolutely not just to "backers".
modest_proposal 1y ago
Keep the bounty, but target the cause and not the effect. Who made the decision? Send a drone army once a month to spray paint their house with PSAs about consumer rights.
hakube 1y ago
I would assume AdGuard or Pi-hole can do the job? No need for potentially unsafe firmware patches
Retr0id 1y ago
accurate HN username

wmeredith 1y ago

I lieu of a donation I'll continue to not pay for ad-laden garbage.

martinky24 1y ago

That website has never once paid out a bounty? hmm...

simoncion 1y ago
It looks to be a very new program. While the fulu.org domain has been around for a long time, archive.org's oldest snapshot of bounties.fulu.org is from late last week. This press release from Oct. 23rd agrees with archive.org's snapshot history: <https://fulu-foundation.ghost.io/repair-bounty-program/ https://fulu-foundation.ghost.io/repair-bounty-program/>. Given the complexity of the tasks on offer, I'm unsurprised that zero of them have been completed in three days. Give those boffins some time, yeah?
- ehnto 1y ago
  I think the bounty aspect of it is incredibly new, the operator only released an announcement video a week or less ago.

commandersaki 1y ago

I recall Louis saying that some (or all?) solutions to these bounties cannot be revealed to the public due to being liable under DMCA circumvention measures. IANAL.

scotty79 1y ago
Doesn't it just affect US citizens?
- keybored 1y ago
  IANAA.
- _whiteCaps_ 1y ago
  Canada and Mexico too thanks to CUSMA.
  - AlexandrB 1y ago
    In light of the ongoing trade war, I think Canada should just tear up this agreement.
    - nerdsniper 1y ago
      I’d vote for that.
- Refreeze5224 1y ago
  The US has successfully bullied many countries around the world to adopt their same insane IP laws, at the cost of cancelling trade agreements with those countries if they don't comply. So no, it affects many countries.
  - fulafel 1y ago
    In fact the first DeCSS trial was in Norway. Which started the whole internet wide civil disobedience campaign of mirroring it, putting it in haikus and t-shirts, etc.
polski-g 1y ago
Seems like they should release the fix on a Hong Kong server.
1y ago

embedding-shape 1y ago

> Include instructions for carrying out the functional method which are accessible and easily usable by a non-technical individual Good luck for anyone to claim this bounty if that's one of the requirements. Does the fridge have any exposed ports at all that the average person could access without removing anything from the fridge? It's also not clear in the bounty, if I add funds to the campaign and it gets fully funded, does that mean that software/hack will be released publicly? Or only to "backers"? It's not clear what the donation goes to, besides for the person who makes the hack to claim.

gblargg 1y ago
What's the use if a non-technical individual can't apply the fix?
- embedding-shape 1y ago
  What's my donation gonna go to if the requirements are impossible to fulfill?
nerdsniper 1y ago
It helps to read into the personality and psychology of Louis Rossmann a bit, who is running this. He does component-level repairs of MacBooks, and entirely understands that custom firmware will likely require JTAG to flash the MCU. FULU / Rossmann isn't handling the public release ... at all. They're worried that doing so would violate US law or at least cost a lot in court fees. They'd be super stoked if whoever made it released to to the public and absolutely not just to "backers".

modest_proposal 1y ago

Keep the bounty, but target the cause and not the effect. Who made the decision? Send a drone army once a month to spray paint their house with PSAs about consumer rights.

hakube 1y ago

I would assume AdGuard or Pi-hole can do the job? No need for potentially unsafe firmware patches

Retr0id 1y ago

accurate HN username