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Seems to confirm Elon Musk is evil, no? Especially when considered along with his political "antics" and behaviors? Gaslighting at this scale is unconscionable.

exasperaited 1y ago
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- ben_w 1y ago
  > If anyone knew Elon Musk existed by the time of the Thai cave rescue and didn't determine from that who he really is, they may not be perceptive. Took me a while after that to accept it wasn't just an aberration. My perspective now is that it continues a pattern of behaviour also seen with his response to Top Gear; it's just that when he reacted to Top Gear, I had an even lower regard for Top Gear… > I don't know that "evil" is a really useful word to fling around, full stop, because it's actually quite subjective. I agree. FWIW, I think "evil" is mostly a strong overlap with dark triad personality: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad But clearly the word is used far more broadly, and it does not reliably keep any meaning from one person to the next.
- cindyllm 1y ago
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- baconbrand 1y ago
  Spot on. These people are all severely emotionally stunted and it is both pitiable and dangerous to me. They will never experience the full breadth of human emotion. And they have inflicted incalculable damage on the rest of us.
nemomarx 1y ago
I think how he treated his daughter or bribed women to have his kids was already pretty bad? this isn't really news about musk being morally awful
- caycep 1y ago
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verdverm 1y ago
They are trying to replicate what happened in Hungary with Orban and to a lesser extent 1991 Russia. The Heritage Foundation is central to architecting and carrying out this vision. They being the oligarchs, the goal being to privatize public services, consolidate control and power, own the information space, or make it such a mess no one knows the truth anymore, idea popularity trumps facts
- immibis 1y ago
  Sadly this always works. It has never failed.
  - verdverm 1y ago
    Much of Eastern Europe has seen rapid improvements since the fall of the Soviet Union. Moldova elected a pro-EU instead of sliding into alt-right territory. So to declare it (or anything) never fails is never going to be true. Looking to Russia as an example, what hasn't been failing? They went from being #2 to being a a pariah state
    - ben_w 1y ago
      While I broadly agree with you, Russia is not a useful example for this point: the failures as a state to be a good place for normal people to live in are not the important failures, instead look specifically at the oligarchs within it and the power they wield, the money they've made.
      - verdverm 1y ago
        Those oligarchs could have, and be, making a lot more money if they integrated with the global economy and participated as a good contributing member. It's a failure of lost opportunity for the oligarchs too. Authoritarian regimes have a much lower upper-limit that holds everyone and everything back
        JetSpiegel 1y ago

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ben_w 1y ago
> If anyone knew Elon Musk existed by the time of the Thai cave rescue and didn't determine from that who he really is, they may not be perceptive. Took me a while after that to accept it wasn't just an aberration. My perspective now is that it continues a pattern of behaviour also seen with his response to Top Gear; it's just that when he reacted to Top Gear, I had an even lower regard for Top Gear… > I don't know that "evil" is a really useful word to fling around, full stop, because it's actually quite subjective. I agree. FWIW, I think "evil" is mostly a strong overlap with dark triad personality: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad But clearly the word is used far more broadly, and it does not reliably keep any meaning from one person to the next.
cindyllm 1y ago
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baconbrand 1y ago
Spot on. These people are all severely emotionally stunted and it is both pitiable and dangerous to me. They will never experience the full breadth of human emotion. And they have inflicted incalculable damage on the rest of us.

nemomarx 1y ago

I think how he treated his daughter or bribed women to have his kids was already pretty bad? this isn't really news about musk being morally awful

caycep 1y ago
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verdverm 1y ago

They are trying to replicate what happened in Hungary with Orban and to a lesser extent 1991 Russia. The Heritage Foundation is central to architecting and carrying out this vision. They being the oligarchs, the goal being to privatize public services, consolidate control and power, own the information space, or make it such a mess no one knows the truth anymore, idea popularity trumps facts

immibis 1y ago
Sadly this always works. It has never failed.
- verdverm 1y ago
  Much of Eastern Europe has seen rapid improvements since the fall of the Soviet Union. Moldova elected a pro-EU instead of sliding into alt-right territory. So to declare it (or anything) never fails is never going to be true. Looking to Russia as an example, what hasn't been failing? They went from being #2 to being a a pariah state
  - ben_w 1y ago
    While I broadly agree with you, Russia is not a useful example for this point: the failures as a state to be a good place for normal people to live in are not the important failures, instead look specifically at the oligarchs within it and the power they wield, the money they've made.
    - verdverm 1y ago
      Those oligarchs could have, and be, making a lot more money if they integrated with the global economy and participated as a good contributing member. It's a failure of lost opportunity for the oligarchs too. Authoritarian regimes have a much lower upper-limit that holds everyone and everything back
      - JetSpiegel 1y ago