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Who, in 2025, is still giving the Trump administration the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the rule of law?

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gcanyon 1y ago
As I’ve said in the past: they need the benefit of the doubt on everything; they deserve the benefit of the doubt on nothing.
lenerdenator 1y ago
Roughly half of the country, give or take.
- daveguy 1y ago
  *Roughly 40% of the country, give or take. Don't be complacent.
- dragonwriter 1y ago
  Roughly 40% supports Trump, but they are often quite loud about putting other things above the rule of law. Not sure why you think roughly 50% give him the benefit of the doubt on dedication to the rule of law.
  - ThrowawayR2 1y ago
    From Democratic analyst David Shor back in March ( https://archive.is/kbwom https://archive.is/kbwom ) : "The reality is if all registered voters had turned out, then Donald Trump would’ve won the popular vote by 5 points [instead of 1.7 points]." So, not that it brings me any joy to say it but it would seem more like 55%? If anyone has any polling data to the contrary, I'd love to see it.
    - dragonwriter 1y ago
      “Registered voters” is not the same group as “people”. Winning by 5% (even assuming no third party votes) is 52.5% (with 47.5% for the opponent) not 55%, if there are any third-party votes, that gets even lower. A piece written in March 2025 discussing a hypothetical for the November 2024 election is not describing the state of the world in October 2025.
      - ThrowawayR2 1y ago
        Unless the 40% number in your previous post was from October 2025, that's plainly moving the goalposts. And registered voters are the only people who matter since anyone else can't cast a ballot. Beyond that, the August 2025 (since October's aren't available yet) poll numbers don't seem that much better. That the Democratic Party approval is neck and neck with the Republicans despite the Republicans' blatant corruption and incompetence speaks volumes about how unpopular the Democratic Party is. They need to reform drastically before the midterms next year.
        Dylan16807 1y ago
        > registered voters are the only people who matter This right here is moving the goalposts.
seattle_spring 1y ago
A non-trivial amount of people in this thread, sadly. Many of which are leaving comments like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45727967 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45727967

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As I’ve said in the past: they need the benefit of the doubt on everything; they deserve the benefit of the doubt on nothing.

lenerdenator 1y ago

Roughly half of the country, give or take.

daveguy 1y ago
*Roughly 40% of the country, give or take. Don't be complacent.
dragonwriter 1y ago
Roughly 40% supports Trump, but they are often quite loud about putting other things above the rule of law. Not sure why you think roughly 50% give him the benefit of the doubt on dedication to the rule of law.
- ThrowawayR2 1y ago
  From Democratic analyst David Shor back in March ( https://archive.is/kbwom https://archive.is/kbwom ) : "The reality is if all registered voters had turned out, then Donald Trump would’ve won the popular vote by 5 points [instead of 1.7 points]." So, not that it brings me any joy to say it but it would seem more like 55%? If anyone has any polling data to the contrary, I'd love to see it.
  - dragonwriter 1y ago
    “Registered voters” is not the same group as “people”. Winning by 5% (even assuming no third party votes) is 52.5% (with 47.5% for the opponent) not 55%, if there are any third-party votes, that gets even lower. A piece written in March 2025 discussing a hypothetical for the November 2024 election is not describing the state of the world in October 2025.
    - ThrowawayR2 1y ago
      Unless the 40% number in your previous post was from October 2025, that's plainly moving the goalposts. And registered voters are the only people who matter since anyone else can't cast a ballot. Beyond that, the August 2025 (since October's aren't available yet) poll numbers don't seem that much better. That the Democratic Party approval is neck and neck with the Republicans despite the Republicans' blatant corruption and incompetence speaks volumes about how unpopular the Democratic Party is. They need to reform drastically before the midterms next year.
      - Dylan16807 1y ago
        > registered voters are the only people who matter This right here is moving the goalposts.

seattle_spring 1y ago

A non-trivial amount of people in this thread, sadly. Many of which are leaving comments like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45727967 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45727967