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Now we begin to see the true reason for all the AI push. >You had to live – did live, from habit that became instinct – in the assumption that every sound you

Now we begin to see the true reason for all the AI push. >You had to live – did live, from habit that became instinct – in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every moment scrutinized. – George Orwell, 1984

protocolture 1y ago
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- asdfjeh 1y ago
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  - protocolture 1y ago
    Reality isnt ever "Heres one datapoint, trend confirmed".
mouse_ 1y ago
they can see with our wifi now so that darkness part is accounted for :(
- derwiki 1y ago
  Let the Ethernet Revolution begin!
codedokode 1y ago
Let me play a devil's advocate. Are you (and Orwell) unhappy that people breaking the law get punished? Even if you merely cross the road in the wrong place, you deserve a punishment to the maximum extent specified by the law, don't you? It doesn't matter if you break the law in the darkness or not.
- 50208 1y ago
  Lord no.
- clipsy 1y ago
  > Let me play a devil's advocate. No. Either stand by your opinion or don't waste our time on it.
  - GaryBluto 1y ago
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- themafia 1y ago
  > Even if you merely cross the road in the wrong place, you deserve a punishment to the maximum extent specified by the law, don't you? It depends _why_ you did it. This is the precise reason why we have courts and juries. Jury nullification exists for a reason. Laws are not meant to be a rote set of rules and punishments to dole out mechanically.
- unethical_ban 1y ago
  No, never in human society have laws been perfectly enforceable. Laws, and society, are shaped by that fact. The concept of perfectly, uniformly and constantly emotion every law in the books is completely absurd. We need to figure out how to deal with that.
  - unethical_ban 1y ago
    s/emotion/enforcing/
- tsimionescu 1y ago
  The whole point of 1984 is to show how perfect surveillance allows the perfect enforcement of unjust laws, allowing complete control of Big Brother over every aspect of the lives of the country's citizens. The same cameras that can be used to fine you for illegally crossing the street can be used to find and punish you for illegally speaking out against the regime. This is the danger of surveillance tech: you install it for purportedly good reasons, but once the power to monitor everyone to this level exists, it becomes very easy to start pushing towards more control, both legally and illegally.

protocolture 1y ago

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asdfjeh 1y ago
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- protocolture 1y ago
  Reality isnt ever "Heres one datapoint, trend confirmed".

mouse_ 1y ago

they can see with our wifi now so that darkness part is accounted for :(

derwiki 1y ago
Let the Ethernet Revolution begin!

codedokode 1y ago

Let me play a devil's advocate. Are you (and Orwell) unhappy that people breaking the law get punished? Even if you merely cross the road in the wrong place, you deserve a punishment to the maximum extent specified by the law, don't you? It doesn't matter if you break the law in the darkness or not.

50208 1y ago
Lord no.
clipsy 1y ago
> Let me play a devil's advocate. No. Either stand by your opinion or don't waste our time on it.
- GaryBluto 1y ago
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themafia 1y ago
> Even if you merely cross the road in the wrong place, you deserve a punishment to the maximum extent specified by the law, don't you? It depends _why_ you did it. This is the precise reason why we have courts and juries. Jury nullification exists for a reason. Laws are not meant to be a rote set of rules and punishments to dole out mechanically.
unethical_ban 1y ago
No, never in human society have laws been perfectly enforceable. Laws, and society, are shaped by that fact. The concept of perfectly, uniformly and constantly emotion every law in the books is completely absurd. We need to figure out how to deal with that.
- unethical_ban 1y ago
  s/emotion/enforcing/
tsimionescu 1y ago
The whole point of 1984 is to show how perfect surveillance allows the perfect enforcement of unjust laws, allowing complete control of Big Brother over every aspect of the lives of the country's citizens. The same cameras that can be used to fine you for illegally crossing the street can be used to find and punish you for illegally speaking out against the regime. This is the danger of surveillance tech: you install it for purportedly good reasons, but once the power to monitor everyone to this level exists, it becomes very easy to start pushing towards more control, both legally and illegally.