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> it's already been ruled as fair use, multiple times most countries don't have a concept of fair use but they nearly all have copyright law
by blibble 1y ago
> it's already been ruled as fair use, multiple times
most countries don't have a concept of fair use
but they nearly all have copyright law
- quantummagic 1y agoThat fact in itself is a worse injustice than anything the LLM companies are doing. At the very least, it should be open to use in reporting, parody, and critique. Having no concept of such fair-use is oppressive and stifling.
- Hamuko 1y agoFair use is not the only way to allow critique and/or parody.
- quantummagic 1y agoWhat are you talking about? You can call it whatever you want, but it amounts to fair-use if you're allowed to use something for the purposes of critique and/or parody.
- Hamuko 1y agoThat's not how it works. Specific carveouts in copyright are not the same thing as fair use.
- quantummagic 1y agoYou're playing word games. The point is that any system that has no concept of fair-use, no allowance for reasonable usage of copyrighted works, except where explicitly granted by the copyright holder, is inherently unjust and stifling to free expression. How such allowances are specified in law, is irrelevant pedantry. What matters is that the allowances are afforded.
- Hamuko 1y agoI implore you to not use terms like "fair use" if you do not understand what they mean and don't care to find out. Because it is not a general concept like "free speech". It's a very specific legal doctrine.
- quantummagic 1y agoYou're pretending the concept is difficult to understand. You're pretending that there is some protected definition of "fair use" that is more complicated than people being granted the right to use a copyrighted work irrespective of the copyright holder's wishes. That's all i've been saying from the start, and your pedantry isn't helpful. It doesn't make you look smart. You haven't added any value or illumination to the conversation.
- Hamuko 1y agoOnce again: that is not what the term means and you should not use it if you do not understand what it means. There is a very established definition for it, and for some reason you keep pretending there isn’t without a shred of evidence. Fair dealing also grants people "the right to use a copyrighted work irrespective of the copyright holder's wishes" and it's separate of fair use.
- nradov 1y agoWhy should we care about conflicting IP laws in other countries? Most of them have no effective means of extraterritorial enforcement.
- blibble 1y agopresumably you want to be able to export your services to the 95% of the world's population lives outside of the reach of the united states regime if not there's plenty of competitors that will