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Why can’t Apple work on a nicer reviews implementation? Linking out to crap like yelp is such a B-grade experience. I wish they’d just build their own and use s

Why can’t Apple work on a nicer reviews implementation? Linking out to crap like yelp is such a B-grade experience. I wish they’d just build their own and use some LLM/sentiment analysis to help filter any spam, but even then, submissions would be tied to Apple IDs and they have a pretty good handle on the legitimacy of devices associated with an account

gdulli 1y ago
Maybe it's the same sort of deal as Google where they sell the traffic to Yelp and agree not to compete? So they can sell your privacy without it looking like they're selling your privacy. If they did what you're suggesting they'd either do it in a privacy-respecting way and leave money on the table, or else directly profit from the sale of privacy and lose the ability to claim they respect your privacy. They don't like either of those options, so they go this indirect route. Again, I have no idea if they have this relationship with Yelp, I'm just speculating if it's like the Google deal.
- drewda 1y ago
  Apple likely pays Yelp to license the review content, not the other way around.
- windexh8er 1y ago
  > Maybe it's the same sort of deal as Google where they sell the traffic to Yelp and agree not to compete? I mean they already do this with preferred apps in the App Store (e.g. preferred revenue sharing for apps like Uber), so why wouldn't they do this in maps? The Apple "privacy" brand has been a sales pitch of questionable validity since it started. Apple only cares about privacy enough to keep its users from being a front page headline, nothing more.
ezfe 1y ago
Apple already has an in-house rating and photo system that they are slowly replacing Yelp with...
- abirch 1y ago
  Personally I would love to see my foody friends’ recommendations for a restaurant over some random person on the internet.
  - morshu9001 1y ago
    Yelp reviews are designed for abuse. I don't even look at them.
  - maelito 1y ago
    That's why I'm basing cartes.app's review system on ATProto.

gdulli 1y ago

Maybe it's the same sort of deal as Google where they sell the traffic to Yelp and agree not to compete? So they can sell your privacy without it looking like they're selling your privacy. If they did what you're suggesting they'd either do it in a privacy-respecting way and leave money on the table, or else directly profit from the sale of privacy and lose the ability to claim they respect your privacy. They don't like either of those options, so they go this indirect route. Again, I have no idea if they have this relationship with Yelp, I'm just speculating if it's like the Google deal.

drewda 1y ago
Apple likely pays Yelp to license the review content, not the other way around.
windexh8er 1y ago
> Maybe it's the same sort of deal as Google where they sell the traffic to Yelp and agree not to compete? I mean they already do this with preferred apps in the App Store (e.g. preferred revenue sharing for apps like Uber), so why wouldn't they do this in maps? The Apple "privacy" brand has been a sales pitch of questionable validity since it started. Apple only cares about privacy enough to keep its users from being a front page headline, nothing more.

ezfe 1y ago

Apple already has an in-house rating and photo system that they are slowly replacing Yelp with...

abirch 1y ago
Personally I would love to see my foody friends’ recommendations for a restaurant over some random person on the internet.
- morshu9001 1y ago
  Yelp reviews are designed for abuse. I don't even look at them.
- maelito 1y ago
  That's why I'm basing cartes.app's review system on ATProto.