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I changed my home setup to MX Linux a couple of months ago. The PC is so damn snappy compared to Win10 with all the garbage updates. I don’t want widgets on my

by grebc 1y ago

I changed my home setup to MX Linux a couple of months ago. The PC is so damn snappy compared to Win10 with all the garbage updates. I don’t want widgets on my Lock Screen. I don’t want to know about Candy Crush when I open the Start Menu. And I definitely do not want to use Edge, Firefox is fine thanks. Let alone the AI BS set for Win11.

frontfor 1y ago
Same here. I’ve recently switched back to Fedora after a long time on Windows. There are so much less distractions on Fedora and I really hope that it stays this way forever.
add-sub-mul-div 1y ago
I don't know about Windows 10 but in Windows 11 all of that, like the other stuff people complain about, can be easily disabled.
- Insanity 1y ago
  Yeah but the “out of the box” experience tells you a lot about a product imo. I use windows only when I play a game, and wouldn’t touch it otherwise
  - chasing0entropy 1y ago
    Investigate ARM / Android gaming scene - it's not your dad's clunky stuff any more - most ARM native games are faster, lightweight, and optimized for touch/vr. ARM console emulation is also on point.
    - Insanity 1y ago
      That’s not really close to playing BF6 and other AAA games though
  - gdulli 1y ago
    It took me longer to figure out how to disable the Ubuntu motd ads than the ones in Windows but I didn't get outraged about it, I just set it up the way I wanted and moved on.
    - quamserena 1y ago
      Or, you can use Linux Mint and get all of the compatibility of Ubuntu with none of Canonical's bullshit.
      - gdulli 1y ago
        The point is not to let a trivial thing bother me and make my decisions for me.
    - ekianjo 1y ago
      The good thing with Linux is that you are not married to Ubuntu. So many options out there.
    - Insanity 1y ago
      I’m not sure what those ads are. As others pointed out, plenty of choice out there. I’ve been a happy Debian user for over a decade.
- mattgreenrocks 1y ago
  Having an OS that doesn’t feel trashy by default should be an incredibly low bar to clear, but alas.
- PyWoody 1y ago
  Until it can't be.
  - Fade_Dance 1y ago
    LTSC is all that's keeping me from a complete switch.
- malfist 1y ago
  Easily disabled, and then a week later, easily disabled and then a week later easily disabled and then a week later easily disabled.
- technion 1y ago
  Half these "disable junk" settings auto revert after every update . And then you have people regularly showing up in threads saying they ran a "debloat" script and now its impossible to run teams and the fix is "rebuild the os". None of this is as simple or risk free as it could be.
tombert 1y ago
I have been trying for about a month to get my parents to move to Linux, after my mom got an automatic update that bricked her computer [1]. I've tried very hard to explain to them that their computers would likely run faster if they moved to Linux Mint or something, with the added bonus that you won't have stuff constantly monitoring everything you're doing and and spitting ads at you. Sadly, this has been in vain; my parents are convinced that it will be "too hard" and I guess that having to call me and have me walk them through wiping their hard drive whenever Windows Update [2] decides that they'd prefer my mom buy a new laptop is somehow "easier". A part of me wants to create an ultimatum and say "I will not play tech support anymore unless you move to Linux or macOS", but I know they would call my bluff and ultimately I would end up caving. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45601144 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45601144 [2] If anyone here works on Windows Update, please consider a career in literally anything else. Software development clearly isn't for you. There are many other positions out there and I suspect you'd be better at nearly any of them than you are at writing software.
- NicoJuicy 1y ago
  I always try to convince people that by staying in the same thing for longer, eventually they will need to switch and everything will be much harder. The brain needs to stay flexible. Good luck
- quamserena 1y ago
  Meh, Linux Mint has some serious rough edges from my experience. Suspend doesn’t work if multiple users are logged in, save-as dialog windows open under the current window (a 7-year old bug!!!) [0], audio devices are not shared between users, some drives don't mount on boot, etc. These problems are probably fixable if you have the know-how but it isn't great for the tech illiterate. That being said, I have never had kernel panics or opened my computer to find a corrupted OS after a bad update (unlike Windows), so there's that. [0] https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk/issues/137 https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk/issues/137
  - ekianjo 1y ago
ProllyInfamous 1y ago
I prepared for EoLwin10 by installing Ubuntu on my older dual Xeon / VEGA64 tower. First time Linux user. This computer is fast again. I went with Ubuntu because it has one-click GPT support, even for an old blue-collar novice like me I can do it. So can you. Next it'll be time to retire the fantastic'est Core2Duo Windows 7 Pro 64-bit -computer you ever did see... but only when it dies of natural causes.
- SoftTalker 1y ago
  And realize that Ubuntu is one of the more bloated distros.
Derbasti 1y ago
On a related note, I used to have a gaming PC. I don't game much any more, so every time I booted up the darn thing, I had to wade through a thick bramble of notifications, updates, ads. It got so bad that lost my will to game altogether. Enough was enough, I sold the PC, and replaced it with a Steam Deck. What a breath of fresh air! No notifications, no OneDrive, no would-you-like-to-use-Edge, no Copilot, no Windows Updates, Windows Store Updates, Driver Updates, Firmware Updates, Browser Updates, let-me-show-you-what's-new-popovers.
nacozarina 1y ago
running mx on my daily drivers for +5 years, no regrets

by grebc 1y ago

frontfor 1y ago

Same here. I’ve recently switched back to Fedora after a long time on Windows. There are so much less distractions on Fedora and I really hope that it stays this way forever.

add-sub-mul-div 1y ago

I don't know about Windows 10 but in Windows 11 all of that, like the other stuff people complain about, can be easily disabled.

Insanity 1y ago
Yeah but the “out of the box” experience tells you a lot about a product imo. I use windows only when I play a game, and wouldn’t touch it otherwise
- chasing0entropy 1y ago
  Investigate ARM / Android gaming scene - it's not your dad's clunky stuff any more - most ARM native games are faster, lightweight, and optimized for touch/vr. ARM console emulation is also on point.
  - Insanity 1y ago
    That’s not really close to playing BF6 and other AAA games though
- gdulli 1y ago
  It took me longer to figure out how to disable the Ubuntu motd ads than the ones in Windows but I didn't get outraged about it, I just set it up the way I wanted and moved on.
  - quamserena 1y ago
    Or, you can use Linux Mint and get all of the compatibility of Ubuntu with none of Canonical's bullshit.
    - gdulli 1y ago
      The point is not to let a trivial thing bother me and make my decisions for me.
  - ekianjo 1y ago
    The good thing with Linux is that you are not married to Ubuntu. So many options out there.
  - Insanity 1y ago
    I’m not sure what those ads are. As others pointed out, plenty of choice out there. I’ve been a happy Debian user for over a decade.
mattgreenrocks 1y ago
Having an OS that doesn’t feel trashy by default should be an incredibly low bar to clear, but alas.
PyWoody 1y ago
Until it can't be.
- Fade_Dance 1y ago
  LTSC is all that's keeping me from a complete switch.
malfist 1y ago
Easily disabled, and then a week later, easily disabled and then a week later easily disabled and then a week later easily disabled.
technion 1y ago
Half these "disable junk" settings auto revert after every update . And then you have people regularly showing up in threads saying they ran a "debloat" script and now its impossible to run teams and the fix is "rebuild the os". None of this is as simple or risk free as it could be.

tombert 1y ago

I have been trying for about a month to get my parents to move to Linux, after my mom got an automatic update that bricked her computer [1]. I've tried very hard to explain to them that their computers would likely run faster if they moved to Linux Mint or something, with the added bonus that you won't have stuff constantly monitoring everything you're doing and and spitting ads at you. Sadly, this has been in vain; my parents are convinced that it will be "too hard" and I guess that having to call me and have me walk them through wiping their hard drive whenever Windows Update [2] decides that they'd prefer my mom buy a new laptop is somehow "easier". A part of me wants to create an ultimatum and say "I will not play tech support anymore unless you move to Linux or macOS", but I know they would call my bluff and ultimately I would end up caving. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45601144 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45601144 [2] If anyone here works on Windows Update, please consider a career in literally anything else. Software development clearly isn't for you. There are many other positions out there and I suspect you'd be better at nearly any of them than you are at writing software.

NicoJuicy 1y ago
I always try to convince people that by staying in the same thing for longer, eventually they will need to switch and everything will be much harder. The brain needs to stay flexible. Good luck
quamserena 1y ago
Meh, Linux Mint has some serious rough edges from my experience. Suspend doesn’t work if multiple users are logged in, save-as dialog windows open under the current window (a 7-year old bug!!!) [0], audio devices are not shared between users, some drives don't mount on boot, etc. These problems are probably fixable if you have the know-how but it isn't great for the tech illiterate. That being said, I have never had kernel panics or opened my computer to find a corrupted OS after a bad update (unlike Windows), so there's that. [0] https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk/issues/137 https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk/issues/137
- ekianjo 1y ago

ProllyInfamous 1y ago

I prepared for EoLwin10 by installing Ubuntu on my older dual Xeon / VEGA64 tower. First time Linux user. This computer is fast again. I went with Ubuntu because it has one-click GPT support, even for an old blue-collar novice like me I can do it. So can you. Next it'll be time to retire the fantastic'est Core2Duo Windows 7 Pro 64-bit -computer you ever did see... but only when it dies of natural causes.

SoftTalker 1y ago
And realize that Ubuntu is one of the more bloated distros.

Derbasti 1y ago

On a related note, I used to have a gaming PC. I don't game much any more, so every time I booted up the darn thing, I had to wade through a thick bramble of notifications, updates, ads. It got so bad that lost my will to game altogether. Enough was enough, I sold the PC, and replaced it with a Steam Deck. What a breath of fresh air! No notifications, no OneDrive, no would-you-like-to-use-Edge, no Copilot, no Windows Updates, Windows Store Updates, Driver Updates, Firmware Updates, Browser Updates, let-me-show-you-what's-new-popovers.

nacozarina 1y ago

running mx on my daily drivers for +5 years, no regrets