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He sounds a lot like how some people behave when they reach a "top". Suddenly that thing seems unworthy all of a sudden. It's one of the reasons you'll see your

by ivape 1y ago

He sounds a lot like how some people behave when they reach a "top". Suddenly that thing seems unworthy all of a sudden. It's one of the reasons you'll see your favorite music artist totally go a different direction on their next album. It's an artistic process almost. There's a core arrogance involved, that you were responsible for the outcome and can easily create another great outcome.

bigyabai 1y ago
When you're overpressured to succeed, it makes a lot of sense to switch up your creative process in hopes of getting something new or better. It doesn't mean that you'll get good results by abandoning prior art, either with LLMs or musicians. But it does signal a sort of personal stress and insecurity, for sure.
- ivape 1y ago
  It's a good process (although, many take it to its common conclusion which is self-destruction). It's why the most creative people are able to re-invent themselves. But one must go into everything with both eyes open, and truly humble themselves with the possibility that that may have been the greatest achievement of their life, never to be matched again. I wonder if he can simply sit back and bask in the glory of being one of the most important people during the infancy of AI. Someone needs to interview this guy, would love to see how he thinks.
dekhn 1y ago
Many researchers who invent something new and powerful pivot quickly to something new. that's because they're researchers, and incentive is to develop new things that subsume the old things. Other researchers will continue to work on improving existing things and finding new applications to existing problems, but they rarely get as much attention as the folks who "discover" something new.
- ASalazarMX 1y ago
  Also, not all researchers have the fortune of doing the research they would want to. If he can do it, it would be foolish not to take the opportunity.
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moritzwarhier 1y ago
Why "arrogance"? There are music artists that truly enjoy making music and don't just see their purpose in maximizing financial success and fan service? There are other considerations that don't revolve around money, but I feel it's arrogant to assume success is the only motivation for musicians.
- ivape 1y ago
  Sans money, it's arrogant because we know talent is god-given. You are basically betting again that your natural given trajectory has more leg room for more incredible output. It's not a bad bet at all, but it is a bet. Some talent is so incredible that it takes a while for the ego to accept its limits. Jordan tried to come back at 40 and Einstein fought quantum mechanics unto death. Accepting the limits has nothing to do with mediocrity, and everything to do with humility. You can still have an incredible trajectory beyond belief (which I believe this person has and will have).
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  - tim333 1y ago
    Einstein also got his nobel prize for basically discovering quanta. I'm not sure he fought it so much as tried to figure what's going on with it which is still kind of unknown.
  - jrflowers 1y ago
    You know people get bored right? A person doesn’t have to have delusions of grandeur to get bored of something. Alternatively, if anything it could be the exact opposite of what you’re describing. Maybe he sees an ecosystem based on hype that provides little value compared to the cost and wants to distance himself from it, like the Keurig inventor.
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Mistletoe 1y ago
Sometimes it just turns out like Michael Jordan playing baseball.
ambicapter 1y ago
Or a core fear, that you'll never do something as good in the same vein as the smash hit you already made, so you strike off in a completely different direction.
dmix 1y ago
That’s just normal human behaviour to have evolving interests Arrogance would be if explicitly chose to abandon it because he thought he was better
toxic72 1y ago
Its also plausible that the research field attracts people who want to explore the cutting edge and now that transformers are no longer "that"... he wants to find something novel.

by ivape 1y ago

bigyabai 1y ago

When you're overpressured to succeed, it makes a lot of sense to switch up your creative process in hopes of getting something new or better. It doesn't mean that you'll get good results by abandoning prior art, either with LLMs or musicians. But it does signal a sort of personal stress and insecurity, for sure.

ivape 1y ago
It's a good process (although, many take it to its common conclusion which is self-destruction). It's why the most creative people are able to re-invent themselves. But one must go into everything with both eyes open, and truly humble themselves with the possibility that that may have been the greatest achievement of their life, never to be matched again. I wonder if he can simply sit back and bask in the glory of being one of the most important people during the infancy of AI. Someone needs to interview this guy, would love to see how he thinks.

dekhn 1y ago

Many researchers who invent something new and powerful pivot quickly to something new. that's because they're researchers, and incentive is to develop new things that subsume the old things. Other researchers will continue to work on improving existing things and finding new applications to existing problems, but they rarely get as much attention as the folks who "discover" something new.

ASalazarMX 1y ago
Also, not all researchers have the fortune of doing the research they would want to. If he can do it, it would be foolish not to take the opportunity.

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moritzwarhier 1y ago

Why "arrogance"? There are music artists that truly enjoy making music and don't just see their purpose in maximizing financial success and fan service? There are other considerations that don't revolve around money, but I feel it's arrogant to assume success is the only motivation for musicians.

ivape 1y ago
Sans money, it's arrogant because we know talent is god-given. You are basically betting again that your natural given trajectory has more leg room for more incredible output. It's not a bad bet at all, but it is a bet. Some talent is so incredible that it takes a while for the ego to accept its limits. Jordan tried to come back at 40 and Einstein fought quantum mechanics unto death. Accepting the limits has nothing to do with mediocrity, and everything to do with humility. You can still have an incredible trajectory beyond belief (which I believe this person has and will have).
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- tim333 1y ago
  Einstein also got his nobel prize for basically discovering quanta. I'm not sure he fought it so much as tried to figure what's going on with it which is still kind of unknown.
- jrflowers 1y ago
  You know people get bored right? A person doesn’t have to have delusions of grandeur to get bored of something. Alternatively, if anything it could be the exact opposite of what you’re describing. Maybe he sees an ecosystem based on hype that provides little value compared to the cost and wants to distance himself from it, like the Keurig inventor.
- moritzwarhier 1y ago

Mistletoe 1y ago

Sometimes it just turns out like Michael Jordan playing baseball.

ambicapter 1y ago

Or a core fear, that you'll never do something as good in the same vein as the smash hit you already made, so you strike off in a completely different direction.

dmix 1y ago

That’s just normal human behaviour to have evolving interests Arrogance would be if explicitly chose to abandon it because he thought he was better

toxic72 1y ago

Its also plausible that the research field attracts people who want to explore the cutting edge and now that transformers are no longer "that"... he wants to find something novel.