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This sounds similar to an article I read about major league pitchers, who must learn to avoid "tells" for the pitch they are about to throw, while opposing team

This sounds similar to an article I read about major league pitchers, who must learn to avoid "tells" for the pitch they are about to throw, while opposing teams pour over video of their previous outings looking for those tells. Some pitchers even said they would deliberately perform a "tell" that opponents had identified then throw a different pitch.

untilted 1y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcoB3G2Gj7w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcoB3G2Gj7w
theturtletalks 1y ago
Same thing happens in football with audibles. I wonder how many teams are feeding videos like these to AI and asking it to find patterns that might be tough for humans to see. If an AI thinks there's a pattern, verifying shouldn't be too hard either.
- alargemoose 1y ago
  My personal favorite example of this in football https://youtube.com/watch?v=g4SEPufzG7s https://youtube.com/watch?v=g4SEPufzG7s
  - AceyMan 1y ago
    Legendary variation from pro tennis between to HoF players, https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/andre-agassi-boris-becker-tongue-serve-b1840198.html https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/andre-agassi-bori...
seanhunter 1y ago
In the exact same way, in cricket there is a style of bowling called legspin and bowlers who use that style have a particular type of ball called a “googly” which turns in the opposite direction to a normal legspin ball. Because legspinners sometimes have to do weird wrist contortions to get this ball to work, batsmen practise trying to “pick” this ball by noticing these tells (mainly whether they can see the back of the bowler’s hand). So really crafty legspinners sometimes try to develop two versions of the googly: one with a deliberate tell and one without a tell. Here’s an example of probably the greatest legspin bowler of all time doing exactly this, although with a different ball (a “flipper” or topspin ball) not a googly https://youtu.be/DlyG5wnW7I0?si=O463NAdV6NAAB3cG https://youtu.be/DlyG5wnW7I0?si=O463NAdV6NAAB3cG

untilted 1y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcoB3G2Gj7w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcoB3G2Gj7w

theturtletalks 1y ago

Same thing happens in football with audibles. I wonder how many teams are feeding videos like these to AI and asking it to find patterns that might be tough for humans to see. If an AI thinks there's a pattern, verifying shouldn't be too hard either.

alargemoose 1y ago
My personal favorite example of this in football https://youtube.com/watch?v=g4SEPufzG7s https://youtube.com/watch?v=g4SEPufzG7s
- AceyMan 1y ago
  Legendary variation from pro tennis between to HoF players, https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/andre-agassi-boris-becker-tongue-serve-b1840198.html https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/andre-agassi-bori...

seanhunter 1y ago

In the exact same way, in cricket there is a style of bowling called legspin and bowlers who use that style have a particular type of ball called a “googly” which turns in the opposite direction to a normal legspin ball. Because legspinners sometimes have to do weird wrist contortions to get this ball to work, batsmen practise trying to “pick” this ball by noticing these tells (mainly whether they can see the back of the bowler’s hand). So really crafty legspinners sometimes try to develop two versions of the googly: one with a deliberate tell and one without a tell. Here’s an example of probably the greatest legspin bowler of all time doing exactly this, although with a different ball (a “flipper” or topspin ball) not a googly https://youtu.be/DlyG5wnW7I0?si=O463NAdV6NAAB3cG https://youtu.be/DlyG5wnW7I0?si=O463NAdV6NAAB3cG