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I don’t think the majority of voting Americans have problems with any of those acts though. Think Joe you pass in Walmart cares about what happens to the White

I don’t think the majority of voting Americans have problems with any of those acts though. Think Joe you pass in Walmart cares about what happens to the White House ballroom?

mcphage 1y ago
The White House is a pretty significant symbol of this country, so yeah, I think they might care that a big chunk of it was just torn down.
- brianwawok 1y ago
  Go to a Walmart in Ohio or Wisconsin and ask. Ask what % will change their next vote because of it
  - SapporoChris 1y ago
    Please don't place the burden of proof on others with absurd tasks.
  - johnnyanmac 1y ago
    I think that's the wrong way to view the problem. Think about it this way: before Nixon resigned his approval rating was still 23%. You can get a quarter of the country to say yes or not care for any given question no matter how obviously dangerous or stupid. But having a 25% approval rating would be very, very bad.
  - intermerda 1y ago
    https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2025/09/30/ohio-family-farmers-describe-life-under-trump-tariffs-were-in-a-hell-of-a-mess-here/ https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2025/09/30/ohio-family-farmer... https://upnorthnewswi.com/2025/10/20/wisconsin-soybean-farmers-face-impacts-from-tariffs/ https://upnorthnewswi.com/2025/10/20/wisconsin-soybean-farme... What do they care about? Price of groceries? Health care maybe?
    - actionfromafar 1y ago
      Red team win. Blue team crying amd punished, maybe bleeding.
  - mcphage 1y ago
    I recall there being some… upset, when a previous resident planted a garden.
- newfriend 1y ago
  You think they're too dumb to understand the difference between "tearing down" and "renovating"? I assure you, they are not.
  - Terr_ 1y ago
    > > a big chunk of it was just torn down > You think they're too dumb to understand the difference between "tearing down" and "renovating"? Are you? You think the East Wing is being "renovated"? Renovation is renewal, repair, restoring function and safety. What's happening instead? Knocking the safe and functional East Wing flat (walls, roof, both floors, 30+ internal rooms) and replacing it with a completely new structure with new foundations and a different purpose... and with a new footprint larger than the entire White House of 2024! Nowhere even remotely close to the same thing. Might as well brag that you "repaired" your sedan by selling it and buying a new truck.
    - newfriend 1y ago
      Yes, it is being renovated. Adding a new room is renovation. They aren't demolishing the entire White House...
      - mcphage 1y ago
        The East Wing isn't being renovated. It's gone, and being replaced with something else.
        newfriend 1y ago
        So the White House is being renovated then, right? Bingo.
        ASalazarMX 1y ago
        You keep using that word, but it doesn't mean what you want it to. Renovation is as your interlocutor says, a restoration. Remodeling is what is happening there, tearing apart something and putting something new in its place. It's a more drastic and expensive work.
- Auracle 1y ago
  A chunk that hasn’t been around that long - but most people aren’t being told that part.
kenjackson 1y ago
Polling on it has been bad even amongst Republicans it isn’t great. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/devastating-poll-reveals-much-americans-140315375.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/devastating-poll-reveals...
- lateforwork 1y ago
  The ballroom is scheduled be ready in January 2029 assuming no delays. But by that time Trump will be at the end of his term. So is he doing this for future presidents (would be very much unlike him) or is he planning to stick around after Jan 2029?
  - unethical_ban 1y ago
    He's making his mark like a dog on a fire hydrant.
  - 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 1y ago
    He wants to stick around The life expectancy tables are kinda against it though
    - lateforwork 1y ago
      His father Fred Trump died at 93. In Jan 2029 Trump will only be 82... and will have another 10 years to go if he lives as long as his father.
    - Terr_ 1y ago
      Most of the people in that sample-data are poor and have less access to doctors and medicine. Life-expectancy tables for multimillionaires and national politicians are probably significantly different.
      - vintermann 1y ago
        I'd say Joe Biden showed us a nice illustration of how there's limits to what doctors can do, even if you're the world's most powerful man and there's billions at stake keeping you alive and functional.
johnnyanmac 1y ago
They were fed "waste fraud and abuse" in the beginning of the year. and suddenly it happens in broad daylight and people shrug? At this point it's just brainwashing. Some people's principals are clearly less about their own conviction and treating all this like a sports team. Whoever team "wins", even if the stadium burns down around them.
- cherrycherry98 1y ago
  It's privately funded so it doesn't fit under "waste, fraud, and abuse" in the same vein as things that use taxpayer money. Conflict of interest by attempting to curry favor for his vanity project by making donations? That's a fair criticism.
  - estearum 1y ago
    It is allegedly privately funded. Remember that Mexico allegedly would pay for the wall.
    - ASalazarMX 1y ago
      The ironic part is, we became the wall. Many immigrants stayed in Mexico because they couldn't cross to USA. Trump invited our wimpy president to a secret meeting, afterwards Mexico silently made the change of attitude from country of passage to destination.
  - maximilianburke 1y ago
    Aren’t private donations supposed to go to the treasury where they are then allocated by congress?
    - Terr_ 1y ago
      Yeah: If someone donates money to the government for any purpose, that becomes government funds, and the Constitution says Congress and only Congress has the authority to decide where those go. Not the President. So either Trump is doing this officially as a President, but with funding that is illegal/unconstitutional... ... Or the funding is legal, but Trump is doing it as a private citizen, which is a federal crime. [0] [0] https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1666-destruction-government-property-18-usc-1361 https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual...
BrenBarn 1y ago
I think they will care if their life gets worse, they just don't realize that these things are the cause.
hackyhacky 1y ago
> Think Joe you pass in Walmart cares about what happens to the White House ballroom? Joe in Walmart thinks what Facebook memes and Fox News tell him to think. The same subversive forces that support the administration's lawlessness control the media diet of a plurality of Americans. If you want Americans to care about wants going on, you have to inform them about it first.
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I don’t think the majority of voting Americans have problems with any of those acts though. Think Joe you pass in Walmart cares about what happens to the White House ballroom?

mcphage 1y ago

The White House is a pretty significant symbol of this country, so yeah, I think they might care that a big chunk of it was just torn down.

brianwawok 1y ago
Go to a Walmart in Ohio or Wisconsin and ask. Ask what % will change their next vote because of it
- SapporoChris 1y ago
  Please don't place the burden of proof on others with absurd tasks.
- johnnyanmac 1y ago
  I think that's the wrong way to view the problem. Think about it this way: before Nixon resigned his approval rating was still 23%. You can get a quarter of the country to say yes or not care for any given question no matter how obviously dangerous or stupid. But having a 25% approval rating would be very, very bad.
- intermerda 1y ago
  https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2025/09/30/ohio-family-farmers-describe-life-under-trump-tariffs-were-in-a-hell-of-a-mess-here/ https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2025/09/30/ohio-family-farmer... https://upnorthnewswi.com/2025/10/20/wisconsin-soybean-farmers-face-impacts-from-tariffs/ https://upnorthnewswi.com/2025/10/20/wisconsin-soybean-farme... What do they care about? Price of groceries? Health care maybe?
  - actionfromafar 1y ago
    Red team win. Blue team crying amd punished, maybe bleeding.
- mcphage 1y ago
  I recall there being some… upset, when a previous resident planted a garden.
newfriend 1y ago
You think they're too dumb to understand the difference between "tearing down" and "renovating"? I assure you, they are not.
- Terr_ 1y ago
  > > a big chunk of it was just torn down > You think they're too dumb to understand the difference between "tearing down" and "renovating"? Are you? You think the East Wing is being "renovated"? Renovation is renewal, repair, restoring function and safety. What's happening instead? Knocking the safe and functional East Wing flat (walls, roof, both floors, 30+ internal rooms) and replacing it with a completely new structure with new foundations and a different purpose... and with a new footprint larger than the entire White House of 2024! Nowhere even remotely close to the same thing. Might as well brag that you "repaired" your sedan by selling it and buying a new truck.
  - newfriend 1y ago
    Yes, it is being renovated. Adding a new room is renovation. They aren't demolishing the entire White House...
    - mcphage 1y ago
      The East Wing isn't being renovated. It's gone, and being replaced with something else.
      - newfriend 1y ago
        So the White House is being renovated then, right? Bingo.
        ASalazarMX 1y ago
        You keep using that word, but it doesn't mean what you want it to. Renovation is as your interlocutor says, a restoration. Remodeling is what is happening there, tearing apart something and putting something new in its place. It's a more drastic and expensive work.
Auracle 1y ago
A chunk that hasn’t been around that long - but most people aren’t being told that part.

kenjackson 1y ago

Polling on it has been bad even amongst Republicans it isn’t great. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/devastating-poll-reveals-much-americans-140315375.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/devastating-poll-reveals...

lateforwork 1y ago
The ballroom is scheduled be ready in January 2029 assuming no delays. But by that time Trump will be at the end of his term. So is he doing this for future presidents (would be very much unlike him) or is he planning to stick around after Jan 2029?
- unethical_ban 1y ago
  He's making his mark like a dog on a fire hydrant.
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 1y ago
  He wants to stick around The life expectancy tables are kinda against it though
  - lateforwork 1y ago
    His father Fred Trump died at 93. In Jan 2029 Trump will only be 82... and will have another 10 years to go if he lives as long as his father.
  - Terr_ 1y ago
    Most of the people in that sample-data are poor and have less access to doctors and medicine. Life-expectancy tables for multimillionaires and national politicians are probably significantly different.
    - vintermann 1y ago
      I'd say Joe Biden showed us a nice illustration of how there's limits to what doctors can do, even if you're the world's most powerful man and there's billions at stake keeping you alive and functional.

johnnyanmac 1y ago

They were fed "waste fraud and abuse" in the beginning of the year. and suddenly it happens in broad daylight and people shrug? At this point it's just brainwashing. Some people's principals are clearly less about their own conviction and treating all this like a sports team. Whoever team "wins", even if the stadium burns down around them.

cherrycherry98 1y ago
It's privately funded so it doesn't fit under "waste, fraud, and abuse" in the same vein as things that use taxpayer money. Conflict of interest by attempting to curry favor for his vanity project by making donations? That's a fair criticism.
- estearum 1y ago
  It is allegedly privately funded. Remember that Mexico allegedly would pay for the wall.
  - ASalazarMX 1y ago
    The ironic part is, we became the wall. Many immigrants stayed in Mexico because they couldn't cross to USA. Trump invited our wimpy president to a secret meeting, afterwards Mexico silently made the change of attitude from country of passage to destination.
- maximilianburke 1y ago
  Aren’t private donations supposed to go to the treasury where they are then allocated by congress?
  - Terr_ 1y ago
    Yeah: If someone donates money to the government for any purpose, that becomes government funds, and the Constitution says Congress and only Congress has the authority to decide where those go. Not the President. So either Trump is doing this officially as a President, but with funding that is illegal/unconstitutional... ... Or the funding is legal, but Trump is doing it as a private citizen, which is a federal crime. [0] [0] https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1666-destruction-government-property-18-usc-1361 https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual...

BrenBarn 1y ago

I think they will care if their life gets worse, they just don't realize that these things are the cause.

hackyhacky 1y ago

> Think Joe you pass in Walmart cares about what happens to the White House ballroom? Joe in Walmart thinks what Facebook memes and Fox News tell him to think. The same subversive forces that support the administration's lawlessness control the media diet of a plurality of Americans. If you want Americans to care about wants going on, you have to inform them about it first.

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