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I guess I'm not quite understanding why you need six staging servers provisioned at $500 a pop? And if you need that because you have a large team...what percen

I guess I'm not quite understanding why you need six staging servers provisioned at $500 a pop? And if you need that because you have a large team...what percentage of your engineering spend is $3000 vs $100k+/yr salaries? Especially when I got look at the site in question (idealist.org) and it seems to be a pretty boring job board product.

odie5533 1y ago
From what I read, they're using them as dev environments. Like running many services at once for a single developer to tie into. That's why they wanted multiple ones, one for each dev.
ygouzerh 1y ago
Yes, everyone forget to compute man-days in the cost calculation
- tensor 1y ago
  This thinking definitely drives enterprise products, and is exactly what makes it hard for small companies. "You can pay a lot simply because you clearly can afford to" doesn't lead to great products, even if it often does lead to profitable companies.
gregsadetsky 1y ago
6 staging servers: main, dev, and any branches that you want to let other (non tech people) QA. As for the staging servers, for each deployment, it was a mix of Performance-M dynos, multiple Standard dynos, RabbitMQ, a database large enough, etc. - it adds up quickly. Finally, Idealist serves ~100k users per day - behind the product is a lot of boring tech that makes it reliable & fast. :-)
- TechDebtDevin 1y ago
  you're telling me 100k people are looking for jobs in non-profits on your specific site daily? Are you sure you don't have a bot/scraper problem?
  - PyWoody 1y ago
    Honestly, 100k/day sounds low for Idealist. It's the go-to place for volunteer and non-profit work, which is quite a considerable market.
- fatata123 1y ago
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marcosdumay 1y ago
$3000/month = 36k/year That's more than 1/3 of the cost of a developer there. That will save you some week of a person's work to set things up and half-a-day every couple of months to keep it running. Rounding way up.

odie5533 1y ago

From what I read, they're using them as dev environments. Like running many services at once for a single developer to tie into. That's why they wanted multiple ones, one for each dev.

ygouzerh 1y ago

Yes, everyone forget to compute man-days in the cost calculation

tensor 1y ago
This thinking definitely drives enterprise products, and is exactly what makes it hard for small companies. "You can pay a lot simply because you clearly can afford to" doesn't lead to great products, even if it often does lead to profitable companies.

gregsadetsky 1y ago

6 staging servers: main, dev, and any branches that you want to let other (non tech people) QA. As for the staging servers, for each deployment, it was a mix of Performance-M dynos, multiple Standard dynos, RabbitMQ, a database large enough, etc. - it adds up quickly. Finally, Idealist serves ~100k users per day - behind the product is a lot of boring tech that makes it reliable & fast. :-)

TechDebtDevin 1y ago
you're telling me 100k people are looking for jobs in non-profits on your specific site daily? Are you sure you don't have a bot/scraper problem?
- PyWoody 1y ago
  Honestly, 100k/day sounds low for Idealist. It's the go-to place for volunteer and non-profit work, which is quite a considerable market.
fatata123 1y ago
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marcosdumay 1y ago

$3000/month = 36k/year That's more than 1/3 of the cost of a developer there. That will save you some week of a person's work to set things up and half-a-day every couple of months to keep it running. Rounding way up.