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I haven't used LLM chrome plugins because I couldn't trust that they weren't collecting more information about my browsing than I'd like. The same concern exist

I haven't used LLM chrome plugins because I couldn't trust that they weren't collecting more information about my browsing than I'd like. The same concern exists for this, though now I'm just confident it's a giant software company with access to my data rather than some shady plugin developer. I'm faced with asking myself if that's actually better...

sansseriff 1y ago
There's a great value proposition for a company like Private Internet Access or NordVPN to create an AI browser extension or full-on browser. Anonymize requests and provide various LLM models. Rely on your reputation as a privacy focused corp to pull people away from these OpenAI/Perplexity offerings.
- bebopfunk 1y ago
  Kagi is starting down that path
srcreigh 1y ago
OpenAI pins certificates on their macOS chatgpt app, so it’s hard to monitor the data they’re collecting.
- fragmede 1y ago
  The problem with sharing the workaround is that OpenAI employees undoubtedly read HN, so if someone were to describe how to do that, it'll get blocked pretty soon after (if there even is one).
  - monerozcash 1y ago
    Disabling certificate pinning on the ChatGPT app is not complicated if you've got previous experience dealing with such things on iOS. The bigger issue is defeating the app attestation, but also not impossible.
babelfish 1y ago
Why would an LLM plugin be able to access more on the page hten any other plugin? This seems like a misunderstanding of how manifests work
jmkni 1y ago
Yeah I find LLM's very powerful in the right context, but I like to keep them at arms length I will go to them when I need something, instead of them spying on me incase I need something
SchemaLoad 1y ago
I have a feeling that data collection is the entire point. Websites like reddit are locking out scrapers since they want to sell the data to AI companies. Owning a browser would mean AI companies can scrape every page you visit, bypassing the bot detection.

sansseriff 1y ago

There's a great value proposition for a company like Private Internet Access or NordVPN to create an AI browser extension or full-on browser. Anonymize requests and provide various LLM models. Rely on your reputation as a privacy focused corp to pull people away from these OpenAI/Perplexity offerings.

bebopfunk 1y ago
Kagi is starting down that path

srcreigh 1y ago

OpenAI pins certificates on their macOS chatgpt app, so it’s hard to monitor the data they’re collecting.

fragmede 1y ago
The problem with sharing the workaround is that OpenAI employees undoubtedly read HN, so if someone were to describe how to do that, it'll get blocked pretty soon after (if there even is one).
- monerozcash 1y ago
  Disabling certificate pinning on the ChatGPT app is not complicated if you've got previous experience dealing with such things on iOS. The bigger issue is defeating the app attestation, but also not impossible.

babelfish 1y ago

Why would an LLM plugin be able to access more on the page hten any other plugin? This seems like a misunderstanding of how manifests work

jmkni 1y ago

Yeah I find LLM's very powerful in the right context, but I like to keep them at arms length I will go to them when I need something, instead of them spying on me incase I need something

SchemaLoad 1y ago

I have a feeling that data collection is the entire point. Websites like reddit are locking out scrapers since they want to sell the data to AI companies. Owning a browser would mean AI companies can scrape every page you visit, bypassing the bot detection.