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1. I think if you were to ask people what brought about the downfall of America, I guess it would be two things, NAFTA, and essentially the bush presidency(they

1. I think if you were to ask people what brought about the downfall of America, I guess it would be two things, NAFTA, and essentially the bush presidency(they may not call it that but reaction to 9/11 + 2008.). Sure there is some sense of an elitism and abandonment of the working class + woke during the Obama Years, but I think that’s secondary to the other.(“It’s the economy stupid” 2. In some sense I might say where we’re at is a retreat of conservative leadership. No shining city on a hill, no American exceptionalism. Elitism without the elite, without the personal responsibility. I think part of the problem with America is the absence of optimism usually associated with Conservatives. 3. But yeah, it’s interesting you seem to get all the negative impacts of a Republican presidency with none of the positive ones.

api 1y ago
I 100% agree about GW Bush. I think he’s the worst president of the last 100 years at least. He’s worse than Trump because he created the conditions for a Trump. If Trump actually becomes dictator I still might not revise that, since again: none of this would have happened without the damage Bush did. I also have a lower opinion of Clinton these days. I think he just got handed the most “easy mode” presidency since WWII. A brick could have had a great presidency in the 90s. The greatest mistake of Bush Sr and Clinton was not going into the former USSR with a Marshall plan rebuild. Instead we let it languish and be looted by “shock doctrine” creeps and then looted again by home grown creeps. If we’d done that Russia might be like Germany and Japan. Obama was IMO a better smarter less corrupt Clinton. Had he been elected in 1992 he would have been amazing. His problem was that he was elected in 2008 and governed like it was 1992. He was handed the keys to a burning house which he then remodeled with a nice new bathroom and kitchen.

api 1y ago

I 100% agree about GW Bush. I think he’s the worst president of the last 100 years at least. He’s worse than Trump because he created the conditions for a Trump. If Trump actually becomes dictator I still might not revise that, since again: none of this would have happened without the damage Bush did. I also have a lower opinion of Clinton these days. I think he just got handed the most “easy mode” presidency since WWII. A brick could have had a great presidency in the 90s. The greatest mistake of Bush Sr and Clinton was not going into the former USSR with a Marshall plan rebuild. Instead we let it languish and be looted by “shock doctrine” creeps and then looted again by home grown creeps. If we’d done that Russia might be like Germany and Japan. Obama was IMO a better smarter less corrupt Clinton. Had he been elected in 1992 he would have been amazing. His problem was that he was elected in 2008 and governed like it was 1992. He was handed the keys to a burning house which he then remodeled with a nice new bathroom and kitchen.