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It's a single region? I don't think anyone would quote availability as availability in every region I'm in? While this is their most important region, there's
by hvb2 1y ago
It's a single region?
I don't think anyone would quote availability as availability in every region I'm in?
While this is their most important region, there's a lot of clients that are probably unaffected if they're not in use1.
They COULD be affected even if they don't have anything there because of the AWS services relying on it. I'm just saying that most customers that are multi region should have their east region out and are just humming along.
- reactordev 1y agoIt’s THE region. All of AWS operates out of it. All other regions bow before it. Even the government is there.
- idontwantthis 1y ago"The Cloud" is just a computer that you don't own that's located in Reston, VA.
- reactordev 1y agoFacts.
- vasco 1y ago> All of AWS operates out of it. I don't think this is true anymore. In the early days bad enough outages in us-east-1 would bring down everything because some metadata / control pane stuff was there, I remember getting affected while in other regions, but there's been many years since this has happened. Today for example no issues. I just avoid us-east-1 and everyone else should to. It's their worst region by far in terms of reliability because they launch all the new stuff there and are always messing it up.
- reactordev 1y agotell me it isn't true while telling me there isn't an outage across AWS because us-east-1 is down...
- vasco 1y agoI help run quite a big operation in a different region and had zero issues. And this has happened many times before.
- reactordev 1y agoIf that were true, you’d be seeing the same issues we are in us-west-1 as well. Cheers.
- Root_Denied 1y agoA secondary problem is that a lot of the internal tools are still on US East, so likely the response work is also being impacted by the outage. Been a while since there was a true Sev1 LSE (Large Scale Event).
- phinnaeus 1y agoWhat the heck? Most internal tools were in Oregon when I worked in BT pre 2021.
- Root_Denied 1y agoThe primary ticketing system was up and down apparently, so tcorp/SIM must still have critical components there.
- derektank 1y agoAWS GovCloud East is actually located in Ohio IIRC. Haven't had any issues with GovCloud West today; I'm pretty sure they're logically separated from the commercial cloud.
- hinkley 1y agoThe Rot Starts at the Head.
- hamburglar 1y agoThe regions are independent, so you measure availability for each on its own.
- logifail 1y agoExcept if they aren't quite as independent as people thought
- hamburglar 1y agoWell that’s the default pattern anyway. When I worked in cloud there were always some services that needed cross-regional dependencies for some reason or other and this was always supposed to be called out as extra risk, and usually was. But as things change in a complex system, it’s possible for long-held assumptions about independence to change and cause subtle circular dependencies that are hard to break out of. Elsewhere in this thread I saw someone mentioning being migrated to auth that had global dependencies against their will, and I groaned knowingly. Sometimes management does not accept “this is delicate and we need to think carefully” in the midst of a mandate. I do not envy anyone working on this problem today.
- alkhimey 1y agoGlobal services such as STS have regional endpoints, but is it really that common to hit specific endpoint rather than use the default?