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I think we all know whose fault that is.

by josefritzishere 1y ago

stronglikedan 1y ago
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- Fnoord 1y ago
  It is a two-way system, and this article is about the information flow from NL to USA.
- TylerE 1y ago
  It's probably the guy who has repeatedly and publically stepped on every rake, over and over again.
  - stronglikedan 1y ago
    Biden's been out of office for a while now.
- crote 1y ago
  The original interview clearly states that the US can no longer be trusted to do the right thing with data concerning Russia, and the spy services explicitly say that they are keeping a close eye on the potential of intelligence being politicized or used to violate human rights. There is no need to guess why that is the case, it is painfully obvious to anyone paying even the slightest attention to US politics. Regarding "their loss": the self-destruction of the US on the international stage is directly leading to a "massive scale-up" of the way various European agencies work together. If anything, I'd call that a win.
  - lenerdenator 1y ago
    > Regarding "their loss": the self-destruction of the US on the international stage is directly leading to a "massive scale-up" of the way various European agencies work together. If anything, I'd call that a win. It's going to take time and resources to match what any sort of "lost" cooperation with the US had, assuming they even can match the capabilities. That's a naturally bad thing for intelligence agencies in the interim.
    - crote 1y ago
      The 2000s / early 2010s US is definitely leaving behind some big shoes to fill, no doubt about that. I'm not going to pretend it won't be a painful transition - Europe has been relying on the US far too much since the Second World War. On the other hand, 2025 US has a president who seems to flips sides in the Ukraine conflict every other week. Considering that the main threat in Europe right now is Russia, that significantly reduces the value of US intelligence. Who needs enemies when your "friends" are just as likely to help you as they are to feed you misinformation?

I think we all know whose fault that is.

stronglikedan 1y ago

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Fnoord 1y ago
It is a two-way system, and this article is about the information flow from NL to USA.
TylerE 1y ago
It's probably the guy who has repeatedly and publically stepped on every rake, over and over again.
- stronglikedan 1y ago
  Biden's been out of office for a while now.
crote 1y ago
The original interview clearly states that the US can no longer be trusted to do the right thing with data concerning Russia, and the spy services explicitly say that they are keeping a close eye on the potential of intelligence being politicized or used to violate human rights. There is no need to guess why that is the case, it is painfully obvious to anyone paying even the slightest attention to US politics. Regarding "their loss": the self-destruction of the US on the international stage is directly leading to a "massive scale-up" of the way various European agencies work together. If anything, I'd call that a win.
- lenerdenator 1y ago
  > Regarding "their loss": the self-destruction of the US on the international stage is directly leading to a "massive scale-up" of the way various European agencies work together. If anything, I'd call that a win. It's going to take time and resources to match what any sort of "lost" cooperation with the US had, assuming they even can match the capabilities. That's a naturally bad thing for intelligence agencies in the interim.
  - crote 1y ago
    The 2000s / early 2010s US is definitely leaving behind some big shoes to fill, no doubt about that. I'm not going to pretend it won't be a painful transition - Europe has been relying on the US far too much since the Second World War. On the other hand, 2025 US has a president who seems to flips sides in the Ukraine conflict every other week. Considering that the main threat in Europe right now is Russia, that significantly reduces the value of US intelligence. Who needs enemies when your "friends" are just as likely to help you as they are to feed you misinformation?