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Kohler launches smart toilet camera
- madhacker 1y agoCouldn't u just do this yourself?
- rolph 1y agoa $599 camera. between $70 and $156 per year for a subscription. who would do that ? nevermind its a rule 35 scenario.
- spankibalt 1y ago> who would do that ? Discriminating anal-ysts.
- JohnFen 1y agoThe phrase "more money than sense" comes to mind.
- chmod775 1y agoNot a lot of people and presumably they know that, hence the price.
- darth_avocado 1y agoI’ve been on the internet long enough to tell you that there is a market.
- throwaway48476 1y agoThere's a parliament where they kept finding cameras in the bathrooms.
- ulf-77723 1y agoShit just got real
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- pixelatedindex 1y agoSometimes we really oughta ask ourselves if we should do something just because we can.
- horsawlarway 1y agoSee - I actually think this is a pretty interesting idea. Stool/Urine are fairly solid indicators of personal health in a lot of ways. But I think this is a product that probably shouldn't be allowed to exist as a standard SaaS/IoT product. If this was a box I could hook up on my toilet that showed useful info on a screen locally - with zero network access... I'd consider buying. --- People are really glib about the loss of control relying on someone else's computer brings. between service enshittification, company death (out of business), privacy concerns, and ownership contention (do I own a device if a company keeps keys to the locks inside it and won't give them to me? I'd argue a solid and resounding "NO")... I don't want anything to do with most modern networked devices in the form of IoT.
- allears 1y agoI'd say this was pretty literally enshittification...
- pixelatedindex 1y agoOh I certainly believe there is merit to the idea. But the execution is… a bit concerning
- brewdad 1y agoSure. Load the data locally onto an SD card that I can use to share the data with my doctor. Sending the data off to some remote third party via a questionable internet connection is a no-go for me.
- mytailorisrich 1y agoFrom Kohler's website: "Deep dive into Dekoda’s design" Intentional humour?
- 4d4m 1y agoSomeone saw Smart Pipe and thought it was real?
- ToniCipriani 1y agoCame here looking for the Smartpipe reference, left satisfied.
- dag11 1y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ
- einsteinx2 1y agoImmediately what I thought of as well haha
- koakuma-chan 1y agoI don't see how this is practical unless your toilet has a USB port to provide power.
- mikestew 1y agoFrom the linked CNET article: "The device has a removable, rechargeable battery and uses a USB connection." Or, if you're willing to spend $600 on a poop camera, you probably already have a bidet with power near the toilet.
- koakuma-chan 1y agoWould you really take it out of the toilet, wash it, wait for it to charge, and put it back on a regular basis? I have enough chores already.
- Joker_vD 1y agoI imagine a bidet would be able to provide enough water for a tiny hydro turbine to sustain the battery charge.
- dagmx 1y agoPresumably there’s some power near the toilet, or they’re self selecting for people who do. Beyond that, it has a rechargeable battery for those who do not. Electric bidets are not uncommon, and are popular depending where you are in the world.
- quickthrowman 1y agoI’m not sure there are enough .. well.. fetishists to support this subscription service. I assume there’s a market, but at a lower price point with no subscription. What a weird product, I don’t want anyone examinining my feces remotely unless I give them a sample myself. Strangely enough, the Secret Service goes to great lengths to intercept and dispose of the President’s bodily waste (like disconnecting the black water pipe and connecting a temporary tank to collect waste). I believe Putin has his waste collected as well, probably other world leaders too.
- fragmede 1y agoIt would be strange to do it for someone unimportant, but for a world leader who's opponents will take it to extract DNA for analysis to try and gain some advantage, it seems entirely reasonable.
- bluGill 1y agoIf this is medically useful is the question. If it can decect cancer before other tests and thus save my life I'm interested.
- IncreasePosts 1y agoOf course it is a company founded by a German inventing a product to help you inspect your poop
- ulf-77723 1y agoWith Withings there are also some french men trying to do the same for pee with U-Scan, there is even a subscription model tied to it
- mikestew 1y agoDoes it have an alcohol mister pointed at that fingerprint sensor? That's probably the last place in my house I'd encourage people to be rubbing their fingers.
- gruez 1y agoGiven that most people don't have an alcohol mister pointed at the flush button, and that gets touched just as often as the fingerprint sensor, I think the lack of an alcohol mister is fine.
- mikestew 1y agoI was thinking about the proximity to the bowl. The flush handle/button usually isn’t single digit inches from where poop splashes around.
- xnx 1y agoProbably a good idea for toilet user to wash their hands.
- eska 1y agowe’ve also written about the toilet camera offered by a startup called Throne Marketing department working overtime with that name
- xnx 1y agoProduct page (but it is 404 right now): https://www.kohlerhealth.com/dekoda/ https://www.kohlerhealth.com/dekoda/
- 1-6 1y agoPrivacy issues aside, I think having a camera to monitor stools and urine color is an excellent way to gauge health. I hope the folks at Kohler can make this happen.
- hopelite 1y agoI have something called eyes and they come preinstalled and included with my system. I carry them with me everywhere. They are multifunctional for many other applications too. They do not have a subscription model either. They even come with a built in, extremely efficient power plant that produces energy for them endlessly for around 80-something years by simple input of quality biomatter.
- Refreeze5224 1y agoWhat a snarky and terribly useless comment. Do better.
- hopelite 1y ago[flagged]
- stuckkeys 1y agolol. What about for those that are colorblind?
- hopelite 1y agoCome on people. At least you laughed, even though you went full what about. I guess humor is still dead?
- fragmede 1y agoThese "eyes". Do they save data to a database? Is that database query able by say, your doctor with actual usefulness? What got logged on March 12th at 2:43 AM, 2003? Can you show it to someone else for them to analyze, or do they have to rely on your expert opinion?
- jvilalta 1y agoCan't wait for the day I need a subscription to flush my toilet.
- rkomorn 1y agoWe're almost there, right? Wasn't there a recent story about needing to watch ads in order to get toilet paper somewhere?
- maxerickson 1y agoI buy my flush water from the city by volume.
- jeffrallen 1y ago"Sorry, toilet cannot contact AWS. Please try again later."
- fuckinpuppers 1y agoKind of like the episode of Black Mirror where everything required credits. Like toothpaste!
- mmooss 1y agoIs it too much to say that I've thought that we could easily collect valuable health information by collecting data on digestion output. It mostly happens in just a few locations (unlike input), so it's perhaps worthwhile to invest in data collection. I expect weight to be valuable, simple to collect, precise, and quantified (thus simple to analyze). Assuming excrement and urine have consistent masses, you would have good data on half of the food input/output equation, which could tell you about hydration and nutrition, the efficiency of fluid and solid digestion, etc. (Input is more difficult to measure.) Density might also help; a sensor in the output pipe below might measure it after a consistent water pressure is applied. For the OP, I wonder how sophisticated these instruments are. For example, using the empty bowl as baseline, you might automatically collect and quantify color data.
- stronglikedan 1y agoIdeal output: half-pound no-wipe solid floater
- maxerickson 1y agoThe hydration of stool varies considerably. Probably tough to do much with just information about the outputs.
- kylehotchkiss 1y agoThis seems like a theranos type of product where the image analysis will be done by some unfortunate person far away.
- flyingminstrel 1y agoSounds like a shitty job
- Integrape 1y agoThat's just how trickle-down economics works.
- kcplate 1y agoNot hot dog…
- supportengineer 1y agoIt's easy to laugh, but this product, deployed at scale would collect a treasure trove of data that would be good for humanity.
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- teeray 1y ago> a $599 camera that can be attached to your toilet bowl and take pictures of what’s inside. This is really the dream of the Cloud to Butt Chrome extension.
- daft_pink 1y agoDoes everyone in the house need their own toilet for this to work or would a couple need two separate cameras attached to the same bowl? What happens if a guest uses your toilet? I’m excited about this product, but curious about the practical logistic of using it and it’s not clear to me how it works from the product page.
- pekim 1y ago> and a fingerprint sensor to identify who’s using the toilet So it sounds like you would only need one camera for multiple people using the same toilet.
- slumberlust 1y agoAren't sphincters unique like fingerprints? There's already a camera, make it happen Kohler.
- xnx 1y agoPair this with a U-Scan Nutrio (https://www.withings.com/us/en/u-scan-nutrio https://www.withings.com/us/en/u-scan-nutrio) for "Number 1" and you're all set. Could probably also develop a toilet seat that weighs you and measures body composition.
- cactusplant7374 1y agoThe measurement bodily stool and fluids is out of control. It borders on a disorder.
- Larrikin 1y agoThe Withings solution doesn't require a camera and seems like the better solution. It's still expensive and basically a subscription. https://www.withings.com/us/en/u-scan-nutrio https://www.withings.com/us/en/u-scan-nutrio
- puppycodes 1y agoOh yeah this can't go wrong at all... feels like the onion wrote this.
- hellotheretoday 1y agoI don’t know if it was the pod8 or what but the idea that you pay several hundred dollars (or more) for hardware to only need a monthly subscription fee to make it actually function is absurd. Also this is absolutely insane in the currently climate. I would be interested in data from analysis of my “output” but there is not a chance I would trust any company in the modern age to not sell the resultant data. If I develop signs of colon cancer or something is that going to silently impact my insurance rates because of data brokering?
- fuckinpuppers 1y ago$599 for device (just a “camera” mostly?) and then a yearly subscription? One or the other folks.