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Tron: Ares Set to Lose $132M+
- ceejayoz 1y agoI don't understand how Jared Leto keeps getting starring roles.
- Fricken 1y agoWe could also ask why Tron sequels keep getting made. The first one lost money and so did the second.
- joezydeco 1y agoI think he's done after this one.
- michaelbuckbee 1y agoHe's already been cast as (and I can't believe I'm about to type this) Skeletor in the Masters of the Universe reboot.
- overvale 1y agoI really liked him in WeCrashed. He was the perfect kind of strange for that part.
- sidewndr46 1y agoMy assumption is he has the best agent in the world
- madduci 1y agoWasn't himself the director or producer?
- fckgw 1y agoCorrect. This was initially being developed shortly after "Legacy but the failure of "Tomorrowland" canned the whole thing. Leto came on years later, offered to produce it and star in the film and brought the project back from the dead. This is basically his film, it doesn't exist without Leto as the lead
- georgeburdell 1y agoHe’s this generation’s Nicholas Cage
- ceejayoz 1y agoCage can laugh at himself, though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unbearable_Weight_of_Massive_Talent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unbearable_Weight_of_Massi... I think he just likes making films.
- drcongo 1y agoI believe Cage had a massive tax bill to pay at some point which led to him appearing in basically anything he was offered, including what is without doubt the worst film I have ever watched, Left Behind [1]. One review I read said something along the lines of "phoning it in would be too kind a description, Cage is so devoid of effort or emotion in this film he regularly appears to have been photoshopped in afterwards" which really summed it up perfectly. Having said that, both before and after the money trouble, he made some superb movie choices and put in some outstanding performances - think Wild at Heart, Pig, Unbearable Weight etc. Hats off to you Nick. [1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2467046/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2467046/
- tredre3 1y agoTheir style of intensity and overacting do have some overlap. They've also both demonstrated that, when they care, they can be excellent and nuanced actors. But Cage's intensity often comes up as kind of funny or endearing. Leto's overacting is often cringy/edgy or downright unpleasant. Which seems to represent both their personalities too.
- jncfhnb 1y agoHe basically made the role for himself. He was not casted.
- zitsarethecure 1y agoIt's the Stonecutters. They did it before with Steve Guttenberg.
- philipallstar 1y agoThere was a pretty painful to watch moment where he showed up to an opening night at a movie theater[0]. My favourite comment: "There are more seconds to mars than people in attendance." [0] https://x.com/VHSDVDBLURAY4K/status/1979279709189083618 https://x.com/VHSDVDBLURAY4K/status/1979279709189083618
- taylodl 1y agoJames Kahn's novelization is orders of magnitude better (original Tron). His novelization of Poltergeist is also excellent.
- mondainx 1y agoI hate to see this, I like Leto, but he clearly can't carry a movie.
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- jncfhnb 1y agoI think he’s a creep and the only flaw of the Bladerunner sequel
- wnevets 1y agothat and Ford walking around in a t-shirt he got from walmart.
- babyshake 1y agoI think Ford could have been removed from the movie along with about 20-30 minutes. It felt like fan service.
- Schiendelman 1y agoIsn't the point of that role him being super creepy? I feel like he was well cast :)
- jm4 1y agoIt's well documented that he's creep in real life. Nine women, including minors, have accused him of inappropriate behavior. His co-stars have had problems with him too. He apparently took the Joker character a little too seriously.
- jncfhnb 1y agoI’d rather not glorify sexual predators personally
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- lazzurs 1y agoI am clearly the only person that enjoyed this movie.
- prettyblocks 1y agoI liked it too. It was full of tropes in a cute way that I enjoy from contemporary sci-fi, and it was pretty sick to go see in Dolby with the haptic seats.
- CoastalCoder 1y agoI didn't hate the movie. It just didn't really excite me. Maybe I'm just old enough that all of the plot points and action sequences were familiar from other films.
- johng 1y agoI love Tron, and NIN. I can't even figure out what the movie is about from the trailers. All the other Tron's I head a good idea of what the movie was about. This one, zero clue... and I have no interest to go to a theater to find out. Will watch once it comes out for home.
- omnicognate 1y agoI'm expecting a glorified music video. If the music is good and the visuals are cool I'll be happy.
- ksymph 1y agoThe criticisms around Ares sounds a lot like the criticisms of Legacy when it came out so I'm actually pretty excited. Tron: Legacy is one of my all-time favorite movies and it's basically a two hour Daft Punk music video.
- CoastalCoder 1y agoI think you'll be happy.
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- Gormo 1y agoIs it set to actually lose $132M, or just "lose" it in the tradition of Hollywood accounting?
- Onavo 1y agoIsn't the rule of thumb for Hollywood that you have to make at least 3x the cost of production in box office sales to break even?
- rbinv 1y agoHow does that work?
- HWR_14 1y agoProduction doesn't include advertising or distribution. Advertising can often equal production costs. And box office revenue gets distributed to several groups, not just going to the people who own the movie.
- codyb 1y agoPresumably there's a fair amount of additional costs involved in marketing and distribution that aren't accounted for in the production figures and this ends up being a good baseline for a fuller accounting based on industry trends.
- HDThoreaun 1y agocost doesnt include advertising which tron had a lot of and studio has to split box office with theaters.
- Gormo 1y agoA Hollywood production often involves a huge number of distinct business entities in a complicated network of relationships with each other. Oftentimes, a specific business entity is set up to coordinate a single production, and that is the entity that reports the profit/loss for the entire project -- the project's revenues can be spread across lots of other entities, while its expenses are concentrated in that central entity, producing a nominal loss in their accounting records even if the movie as a whole was extremely profitable.
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- atum47 1y agoI was visiting my old university town when I noticed they have a movie theater now. I went in cause I wanted to support it and the only session at the time was tron. I left as soon as my pop corn bucket was empty. What a mess!
- mylons 1y agothey’ll easily make this up at the parks at the new tron ares ride
- angmarsbane 1y agoWe saw it but only because our theater has discount movie tickets on Tuesdays, it's our cheap weekly date within walking distance. We were satisfied watching it for $8/per ticket. At that cost per ticket we don't mind taking a chance on a movie with mixed or poor reviews, and we don't mind seeing a movie outside of our core genres.
- Geonode 1y agoTron is interesting because we want to go into the digital world. We don't want it to come to us, the whole plot of this is contrary to the fun of the original idea.
- miamibre 1y agoThank you so much for saying this! The moment I saw the trailer and read the premise I immediately lost faith in the product. I am not the biggest Tron fan but I have such a soft part in my heart for the movies because the original film has such a unique take on how computers work because back then they weren't mainstream that you end up with this weird mishmash of science and fantasy that you don't see anymore. Meanwhile, the sequel had this amazing production design and the remix version of the album has a permanent spot in my workout playlist thanks to all the techno artists they brought aboard. Shame that the execs in Disney seem to be so clueless and just keep burning hundreds of millions to make these over-budget star studded films that no one is going to watch, at least in the case of marvel it makes sense but who in the world was clamoring for Tron? You need to take creative risks and shying away from the digital world isn't it.
- cam_l 1y ago..art imitates life.
- squigz 1y agoWell that's because they didn't have Daft Punk making a banger soundtrack
- asadm 1y agoI watched the movie in 4dx and absolutely loved it! If you are on the fence, DO NOT MISS WATCHING IT IN 3D! (they will never release it in 3d on digital). The visuals and soundtrack are amazing.
- attendant3446 1y agoI have watched it in 3D, it's still a bad movie. Only the soundtrack was good.
- jerf 1y agoTron is a fantastically difficult franchise to write for. It is, in my opinion, the most alien franchise in Hollywood. It's unusual for alien worlds in Hollywood to have different physics, but the grid does. Its residents are not human, and while some basic connections to humans are necessary for the audience to care at all, the programs on the grid are not humans. Very different motivations, very different needs. And now that Hollywood executives have all but open contempt for writing, I had no hopes of them writing a decent Tron film. And they didn't. Even Legacy really kind of squeaked out decent quality (if not spectacularly perfect in every way) in an era where the writing was already degrading; I recall not expecting much from that film even then and being pleasantly surprised. Now it's just hopeless to expect them to be able to write something as foreign as the deeply alien grid residents in Tron when Hollywood writers hardly seem to be able to write about anything that isn't just their own personal interpretation of some family trauma they directly experienced, or their previous night's dinner politics conversation translated to screen with some one genre or another's conventions smeared over it like a bad makeup job.
- dustingetz 1y agowhat went wrong historically that the writing got so bad these days?
- PaulHoule 1y agoI think there's a bit of a monoculture in L.A. and the same kind of people keep writing the same kind of movies in big committees. I think a lot of westerners are getting into anime and manga and part of it is that a manga is typically drawn and written by one person who is responsible for the whole story, contrast that to the "Marvel System" where four people worked on each book -- Stan Lee had a writing credit and it's true that he had a special talent for picking the exact words but the art team had a big influence on deciding how the story would go.
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- r_lee 1y agoSounds like a tremendous success to me?
- bronlund 1y agoImagine that.
- cadamsdotcom 1y agoToday's news: Disney to stop charging money for Tron Ares forever. Thus creating a completely permanent immutable $132m loss which will definitely never change for ever and ever. It's a hit piece people