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You can gain a little bit of it back by living in a low population density area. I live in a small enough town that if I screw somebody, my name will be hosed
by mothballed 1y ago
You can gain a little bit of it back by living in a low population density area.
I live in a small enough town that if I screw somebody, my name will be hosed until the day of my funeral.
End result is I've left $10s of K of easily pawnable construction materials out for years (sorry any thieves reading, it is gone now) and no one touched it. There are several houses around me that have been abandoned for years, no one has ever touched them, except as a free service to help maintain their road.
If I go into 'town' it's a good bet almost everywhere I go, my wife or I will see someone we know. If you do not hold a door for someone, they will remember. If you cut them off in traffic, they will remember. If we lie to others, it will be known by everyone in short order, and we will never have any halfway decent job here again, unless the money can somehow be made in a trustless service.
- pancakemouse 1y agoNot at all snarky because I have no idea what the real answer is here, but although this sounds pretty good, it strikes me how in conflict this would be with most peoples' ideals if we tried any sort of system to scale this to larger populations (like a city). Perhaps we want privacy-but-not-anonymity. Or perhaps society doesn't scale easily.
- throwaway48476 1y agoThe real answer is to rebuild the high trust society by relentlessly removing the low trust elements, the same way the high trust society was created to begin with.
- nradov 1y agoThat isn't a real answer. There is no effective way to remove the low-trust elements who physically operate in jurisdictions with no effective law enforcement. Like what are we going to do, fire cruise missiles at random Internet cafes in Nigeria and Cambodia?
- throwaway48476 1y agoThere are alternatives such as cutting the internet cable or requiring insurance on all cross jurisdictional transactions.
- nradov 1y agoThose are not alternatives. VPNs and botnets already exist. We have minimal practical ability to control Internet traffic or transactions between most foreign countries. All it takes is a single compromised device in the USA for the scam traffic to get through.
- throwaway48476 1y agoThere are very few transatlantic cables that carry all of the internet. It would be very easy to cut them. VPNs don't make any difference.
- nradov 1y agoCome on, be serious. No one is going to cut any transatlantic cables just to prevent scams. VPNs make a huge difference: as long as you can get a route out somewhere then you can use a VPN (possibly to a compromised host) to make your traffic appear to be coming from another source.
- throwaway48476 1y agoYou can't VPN on a non existent path. Or bomb them. All it takes is an actual desire to stop scammers.
- cindyllm 1y ago[dead]
- saulpw 1y agoWe are heading for a period of a not-fully-connected internet. Already people are cutting off China and Russia from their sites because their bot traffic is either overwhelming or malignant.
- fluoridation 1y agoI don't know if I'd say that every mistake you've ever made being remembered forever is something to be "gained".
- A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 1y agoJust to be perfectly clear, "every mistake you've ever made being remembered" is already in place. The only difference is that it is used to profile you and sell you more stuff as opposed building a working community, where 'bad members' can be identified and shamed.
- fluoridation 1y agoNah. You're taking too literally something that should only be figurative. Internet advertisers don't remember when you cut someone off in traffic by mistake, or don't wave back one morning when you're feeling grumpy, or you have a disagreement with a customer regarding when work was considered finished.
- A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 1y agoYou are living in the past. I do not mean it in pejorative sense. People are wholesale dumping their entire lives into various llms. Various advertising profiles know much more than you cutting off someone in traffic. More than that, they can infer a lot more. And if they don't, they will be replaced by companies that do..
- fluoridation 1y ago>People are wholesale dumping their entire lives into various llms. Not to be dismissive, but that's on them. You can control what you tell the bartender. You can't control what people whisper about you behind your back. >Various advertising profiles know much more than you cutting off someone in traffic. They "know" different things. Also, oh no! You mean to tell me advertisers are tracking me to optimize which ads get blocked by uBO? Woe is me! What ever shall I do? Try opting out of having a bad reputation in a small village.