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I might be too informed by headlines than reality, but is my perception correct that the Windows experience is worsening by the year, particularly with regard t
by nomilk 1y ago
I might be too informed by headlines than reality, but is my perception correct that the Windows experience is worsening by the year, particularly with regard to installation, configurability, UX, and privacy?
Apple certainly isn't perfect and has released some tripe lately (iOS 26) but I trust they'll work through the kinks. Apple seems to undulate, whereas Windows's trajectory seems net downward.
- Noaidi 1y agoThis is not Apple‘s price. This is Amazon‘s price. I don’t think Apple has much control over the price of their laptops on Amazon. Please anyone correct me if I’m wrong. I also think that Apple does not like when Amazon offers their products at a discount.
- freefaler 1y agoThey can forbid if Amazon is buying directly. However as with Wallmart it's beneficial for them to not provide discounts directly, but still have a "low-cost" alternative.
- tonyedgecombe 1y agoApple is making definitely setting the price. What they want is to keep that low price out of their own stores and web site but still keep it in front of price conscious consumers.
- criddell 1y agoWindows isn't worsening in every regard. Some people don't like the telemetry so for them, that's a major privacy strike. But the typical person taking home a new laptop from Best Buy doesn't care about installation. UX is the same as it has been for a while now - click on an icon and the application will start. Things like printers and scanners pretty much just work now. The main market for Windows these days is corporate users and gamers and Microsoft is still doing a pretty good job of serving both of those markets.
- tonyedgecombe 1y ago>Windows isn't worsening in every regard. It feels like it is. I was watching my wife use Outlook the other day and was appalled by how slow it is. The last time I used it it was fine on 2000 era hardware, now it barely runs on 2025 hardware. It seems Microsoft has forgotten how to write good software.
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- seec 1y agoI run Windows 11 unofficially on hardware from 2014, it was relatively high-end but it runs just fine (in fact it feels snappier than some modern systems). If you try to run the latest OS on dirt cheap hardware, it's going to run bad no matter what. Macs are not immune to this, in fact they are much more susceptible to it.
- tonyedgecombe 1y agoI should have been clearer, I meant Office 2000 on 2000 era hardware. ie after 25 years of progress everything from MS feels worse.
- klaussilveira 1y agoI would have to disagree. Since Windows 11 rolled out, calls from family have increased. This is not the usual "where is my printer", but basic stuff: "where are my files", "why can't i find the backup drive", "where is my computer", followed by "why do they change stuff". Microsoft seems to insist on alienating a whole generation of computer users. I expect that this next Christmas I'll be doing a lot of Vista or 7 installations.
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- floundy 1y agoThat was my experience. I switched from Windows to Mac last fall with the incessant popups my PC wasn’t eligible for Win11. My pi-hole is no longer full of blocked requests to Microsoft tracking domains. I get the pleasure of using Win11 on my work laptop and the UI is a hilarious Frankenstein mishmash of mostly the new design, but every so often something is inexplicably skinned the “old” Win10 UI and looks super out of place. A couple months ago I also switched from Android to iPhone. My overall perception is Apple isn’t perfect, but definitely does privacy better, and their guidelines for user experience in design avoid some of the more egregious things MS and Google have changed recently.
- cbdevidal 1y agoI definitely prefer iPhone over Android—-until I need to copy and paste something. Then I just want to throw it out the nearest window. Android does text selection FAR better. Other than that, you can have my iPhone when you take it from my cold, dead…
- hagbard_c 1y ago> the UI is a hilarious Frankenstein mishmash of mostly the new design, but every so often something is inexplicably skinned the “old” Win10 UI and looks super out of place. You did not dig deep enough or you'd have added the Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows NT4 and probably even still some lingering Windows NT 3 UI elements.
- cbdevidal 1y agoI’ve been a Linux sysadmin for 25 years but always preferred Windows on my desktop. Reason: Software compatibility. Windows 11 changed that. I have to reinstall it every six months or so due to instability. Last time it happened, multiple monitor capability disabled, audio out to my headphones kept disappearing (reboot to fix), and every few days upon rebooting, boot would fail requiring the Bitlocker PIN. I don’t install any weird drivers/software or visit weird sites, never get malware. It’s just Windows fragility. I really miss Win10. I’m scheduled for a new laptop in June and I’ve decided it’s getting Ubuntu. I’m done. Windows 11 is just too fragile. I checked and all of the important apps I use now have near-perfect Linux counterparts. So the software compatibility issue is no longer a concern for me. Bye, Microsoft!
- aaomidi 1y agoUbuntu is.. not that good on the desktop
- cbdevidal 1y agoI just installed it on my son’s desktop with Cinnamon. It’s good enough for me. It’s the server OS I prefer to use so I’m most familiar with it. And has the same excellent software compatibility as Windows; Most tutorials assume Ubuntu. Oh and I’ve been using Lubuntu for the past year on my road laptop. No issues. Good enough.
- tasuki 1y agoI mean, you're the sysadmin, so I probably shouldn't explain things to you. But I spent 20 years with Ubuntu and recently switched to Debian. The tutorials work the same. The disadvantage of Ubuntu is its weird mixture of apt and snap. The snaps self-update when they feel like it (eg when you're on a train, wasting your precious data). Debian uses apt for everything. It's a lot simpler and you have more control over it.
- cbdevidal 1y agoI cut my teeth on Debian many moons ago. It’s alright, but I’m content with Ubuntu, having run Lubuntu now on my road laptop for a year.