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That's one of the ways [EDIT: s/white supremacists lure people in/they get ya], it's by far the predominant usage, but it's a bastardization of a term of art in

That's one of the ways [EDIT: s/white supremacists lure people in/they get ya], it's by far the predominant usage, but it's a bastardization of a term of art in the social sciences, essentially, a transition to a low death rate & low birth rate society from norm of high/high: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_transition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_transition

pavel_lishin 1y ago
That's how who gets who? I am having a real hard time trying to understand what you're attempting to communicate here.
- eschaton 1y ago
  “Demographic transition” has become a white supremacist dogwhistle. They’re not upset about declining birth rates in general, they’re upset about declining birth rates among specific populations.
  - Terr_ 1y ago
    Even if they are abusing the phrase among themselves, legitimate usage is still heavy enough that I don't think I would assume it's a dogwhistle by default.
    - eschaton 1y ago
      I would suggest that you need to look at context in order to determine whether a phrase is being used as a dogwhistle. For example, if someone is also repeating other far-right propaganda (“fracking has solved the oil problem”), what are the chances that their use of this term is in good faith rather than as a dogwhistle?
      - Terr_ 1y ago
        Hence "by default." Incidentally, are you claiming one of the above posters here has already included "other far-right propaganda" that tips the scales? From my perspective, there's been some kind of false-alarm. The danger exists out there, but--unless there's some author reputation I'm unaware of--this isn't it.
        eschaton 1y ago
        Yes, the idea that the problem of “oil” (fossil fuels) has been “solved” by fracking. That’s another right-wing tell, because it ignores the broad environmental destruction caused by the use of fossil fuels and presumes that the only problem with them is scarcity.

pavel_lishin 1y ago

That's how who gets who? I am having a real hard time trying to understand what you're attempting to communicate here.

eschaton 1y ago
“Demographic transition” has become a white supremacist dogwhistle. They’re not upset about declining birth rates in general, they’re upset about declining birth rates among specific populations.
- Terr_ 1y ago
  Even if they are abusing the phrase among themselves, legitimate usage is still heavy enough that I don't think I would assume it's a dogwhistle by default.
  - eschaton 1y ago
    I would suggest that you need to look at context in order to determine whether a phrase is being used as a dogwhistle. For example, if someone is also repeating other far-right propaganda (“fracking has solved the oil problem”), what are the chances that their use of this term is in good faith rather than as a dogwhistle?
    - Terr_ 1y ago
      Hence "by default." Incidentally, are you claiming one of the above posters here has already included "other far-right propaganda" that tips the scales? From my perspective, there's been some kind of false-alarm. The danger exists out there, but--unless there's some author reputation I'm unaware of--this isn't it.
      - eschaton 1y ago
        Yes, the idea that the problem of “oil” (fossil fuels) has been “solved” by fracking. That’s another right-wing tell, because it ignores the broad environmental destruction caused by the use of fossil fuels and presumes that the only problem with them is scarcity.