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Every grocery store where I've shopped has yogurt with no added sugar. It's right there on the shelf, just look at the label. Antibiotic resistance is a concer
by nradov 1y ago
Every grocery store where I've shopped has yogurt with no added sugar. It's right there on the shelf, just look at the label.
Antibiotic resistance is a concern but the FDA has made progress in that area.
https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/safety-health/antimicrobial-resistance https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/safety-health/antimicr...
The EU bans routine antibiotic use for promoting animal growth but antibiotics are still widely used for other purposes.
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/first-report-eu-wide-sales-use-antimicrobials-animals https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/first-report-eu-wide-sales...
- 0xbadcafebee 1y agoThe US still used 6.1 million kilograms of medically important antibiotics for animal farming in 2023. It was only down 2% from the year before. https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/antimicrobial-stewardship/fda-report-shows-small-decline-sales-antibiotics-food-producing-animals https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/antimicrobial-stewardship/fda-rep...
- parineum 1y agoThat sounds like a lot but what's the comparison to another country adjusted per animal (or weight of meat produced?)?
- benrutter 1y agoThis paper[0] (from a UK activist group but well referenced) says: > US farm antibiotic use is 2.6 times higher than the median use in European countries and 60% higher than the average use throughout Europe. [0] https://www.saveourantibiotics.org/media/1830/farm-antibiotic-use-in-the-united-states-2020-a-threat-to-uk-standards.pdf https://www.saveourantibiotics.org/media/1830/farm-antibioti...
- throwway120385 1y agoIt's marked as "plain" yogurt. You can still find adulterants in it, just not added sugars. For example Trader Joe's "plain yogurt" is a mixture of yogurt and buttermilk.
- yesb 1y agoPlain yogurt is strictly defined by the FDA. It's when you have flavored versions that the rules get loose. For example this contains only milk, cream, bacteria: https://www.traderjoes.com/home/products/pdp/plain-whole-milk-greek-yogurt-069169 https://www.traderjoes.com/home/products/pdp/plain-whole-mil... This is basically sugary milk with thickeners added to make it vaguely like yogurt: https://www.yoplait.com/products/original-single-serve-strawberry https://www.yoplait.com/products/original-single-serve-straw...
- nradov 1y agoI don't understand your comment. Trader Joe's sells plain yogurt with no added buttermilk. https://www.traderjoes.com/home/products/pdp/greek-whole-milk-yogurt-plain-069707 https://www.traderjoes.com/home/products/pdp/greek-whole-mil... Or you can buy essentially the same thing for less at Walmart. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mountain-High-Low-Fat-Yogurt-Vanilla-Gluten-Free-Snacks-32-OZ-Container/10801677 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mountain-High-Low-Fat-Yogurt-Vani... While there are some people who live in "food deserts" with very limited options, complaints by most HN users about the difficulty of finding healthy food don't align with reality.
- technothrasher 1y agoEven if they did add buttermilk, it would almost undoubtedly be cultured buttermilk, which is really nothing more than very thin yogurt. So I'm not seeing what the issue would be with Trader Joe's adding yogurt to yogurt.
- yesb 1y agoNot sure if they carry it anymore but yogurt marketed as "European style" often has buttermilk: https://oatmel.com/products/European_Style_Smooth__Creamy_Plain_Whole_Milk_Yogurt_Trader_Joes_c1e2eb5ac https://oatmel.com/products/European_Style_Smooth__Creamy_Pl... But not sure I would consider fermented milk to be an "adulterant" in a different fermented milk product...
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- vector_spaces 1y ago> Every grocery store where I've shopped has yogurt with no added sugar. It's right there on the shelf, just look at the label. Large parts of the US are designated as food deserts, where one's best option for groceries might be the convenience store attached to a gas station. Good luck finding plain yogurt with no sugar added there. Your specific experience is exactly that. [1] https://ers.usda.gov/data-products/charts-of-note/chart-detail?chartId=74935 https://ers.usda.gov/data-products/charts-of-note/chart-deta...
- nradov 1y agoFood deserts do exist but appear to have no meaningful effect on eating habits. https://news.uchicago.edu/story/food-deserts-not-blame-growing-nutrition-gap-between-rich-and-poor-study-finds https://news.uchicago.edu/story/food-deserts-not-blame-growi...
- vector_spaces 1y agoYou made a claim that plain yogurt is generally available in US food markets, attempting to make an inference about grocery store selections drawing from your own experience. I pointed out that it is not actually generally available and noted that your experience does not generalize. I am not sure why you mention eating habits, since this is not what is being discussed
- dragonwriter 1y ago> I pointed out that it is not actually generally available Actually, you pointed out that food deserts exist, and asserted that that meant that plain yogurt is not generally available, the thing you pointed out does not support the conclusion drawn from it.
- seemaze 1y agoFood deserts appear to roughly correlate inversely with population density[0]. I don't interpret the existence of food deserts as evidence that food choice is not 'generally' available. Assuming we are serving people and not geographies. [0]https://vividmaps.com/us-block-level-population-density/ https://vividmaps.com/us-block-level-population-density/
- arrozconcosas 1y agoThey exist but are a small minority of the shelf. You have to really look for them.
- supportengineer 1y agoThis begs the question - is it reasonable for the consumer to put in a little work - reading labels and doing research outside of the grocery store? I find that you do the research once, and then you know what to buy next time.
- OJFord 1y agoI think the point is more that the norm is sugary, and so it's necessary to do what you describe to find plain (not to say 'normal') yoghurt.
- jmathai 1y agoThe amount of work the consumer puts in is matched by food makers. You'll see the deceptive marketing on so many foods. "No sugar added" no longer means no added sweetening agent. It means that sugar was replaced by alternative sweeteners. It's exhausting being a consumer these days.
- positr0n 1y agoAre we still talking about yogurt? I do not find it difficult or have to put in any work to buy low sugar yogurt. I buy large amounts of full fat zero added sugar Greek yogurt and yogurt cups with 2g of added sugar and there are always multiple options clearly labeled on the shelf among all the other more sugary options.
- jmathai 1y agoSure. In the Kroger app when I search for “plain yogurt” the first result is yoplait vanilla flavored yogurt. I wish I could share the screenshot because it’s so ridiculous.
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- audunw 1y agoIt’s not just about sugar/no-sugar. It’s about the amount of sugar. Sometimes I want sweetened yoghurt, maybe as a treat. Especially for the kids. Getting something with a reasonable amount of sugar in reasonable portions is the problem. When you default to an insanely high amount of sugar in very big portion you train people to expect that sweetness in their treats. Hell, people end up expecting more sweetness in their regular meals. I honestly think that’s a bigger problem than the lack of entirely sugar free options.