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How do autonomous driverless cars handle the stand off that occurs when two cars meet on a narrow London street and both parties are of the opinion that the oth

How do autonomous driverless cars handle the stand off that occurs when two cars meet on a narrow London street and both parties are of the opinion that the other has to back up 50 meters to let them through? Will the car instruct the passenger to get out and do the arm waving and swearing required for the right of way negotiation?

michelsedgh 1y ago
In Los Angeles, it handles it very badly in my experience.
- whiplash451 1y ago
  Robo-taxis can decide not to travel through these roads (or to only do it under absolute necessity) I'm also curious to know if Waymo's are allowed to drop you slightly off from the address you specified -- in which case they can drop you at the next corner.
  - Thorrez 1y ago
    >I'm also curious to know if Waymo's are allowed to drop you slightly off from the address you specified -- in which case they can drop you at the next corner. Yes, they do. >Tell us where you want to go >Choose your destination and we’ll select the safest spots to pick you up and drop you off. https://waymo.com/rides/ https://waymo.com/rides/
  - michelsedgh 1y ago
    Yes but thats a hack, the issue that it can’t handle those situations is still there and in my experience the car behind me was a waymo that kept trying to center but as soon as it saw cars coming it swerved. It kept going left and right. Unsafe in that situation and scared for people who were coming its way.
  - n4r9 1y ago
    I live in London and have visited and driven in LA. London has more narrow streets. Many, many more.
jeroenhd 1y ago
Why would they handle it? The autonomous car has all the time in the world. If it takes too long, the car can just hit an error condition, terminate the ride, or maybe tell passengers to walk to the end of the street to get into another car. Then it can just ignore its surroundings and wait things out. These cars get away with being incapable of following police instructions, I don't see why they would need to care about other traffic users.
- xnx 1y ago
  If the Waymo is occupied or driving to a pickup, waiting indefinitely doesn't seem profit optimal. There are video examples of Waymos reversing when a narrow road is obstructed. There are also many examples of Waymos following directions from police and construction workers.
- tim333 1y ago
  Around Portobello Road you often get some quite impressive jams like that with two busses and about ten cars. If it just stopped in the middle it wouldn't be popular with the permitting folk. In Waymo's favour the humans often don't do that good a job.
bitshiftfaced 1y ago
Maybe take a longer route that avoids the narrow street.

michelsedgh 1y ago

In Los Angeles, it handles it very badly in my experience.

whiplash451 1y ago
Robo-taxis can decide not to travel through these roads (or to only do it under absolute necessity) I'm also curious to know if Waymo's are allowed to drop you slightly off from the address you specified -- in which case they can drop you at the next corner.
- Thorrez 1y ago
  >I'm also curious to know if Waymo's are allowed to drop you slightly off from the address you specified -- in which case they can drop you at the next corner. Yes, they do. >Tell us where you want to go >Choose your destination and we’ll select the safest spots to pick you up and drop you off. https://waymo.com/rides/ https://waymo.com/rides/
- michelsedgh 1y ago
  Yes but thats a hack, the issue that it can’t handle those situations is still there and in my experience the car behind me was a waymo that kept trying to center but as soon as it saw cars coming it swerved. It kept going left and right. Unsafe in that situation and scared for people who were coming its way.
- n4r9 1y ago
  I live in London and have visited and driven in LA. London has more narrow streets. Many, many more.

jeroenhd 1y ago

Why would they handle it? The autonomous car has all the time in the world. If it takes too long, the car can just hit an error condition, terminate the ride, or maybe tell passengers to walk to the end of the street to get into another car. Then it can just ignore its surroundings and wait things out. These cars get away with being incapable of following police instructions, I don't see why they would need to care about other traffic users.

xnx 1y ago
If the Waymo is occupied or driving to a pickup, waiting indefinitely doesn't seem profit optimal. There are video examples of Waymos reversing when a narrow road is obstructed. There are also many examples of Waymos following directions from police and construction workers.
tim333 1y ago
Around Portobello Road you often get some quite impressive jams like that with two busses and about ten cars. If it just stopped in the middle it wouldn't be popular with the permitting folk. In Waymo's favour the humans often don't do that good a job.

bitshiftfaced 1y ago

Maybe take a longer route that avoids the narrow street.